Aug. 10, 2023
Andre Rand and the Legend of Cropsey

It’s the 1970s and we’re in Staten Island. Islanders have embraced that 70s laid back lifestyle and children are given lots of freedom: they roam the streets freely, running errands or playing until the streetlights come on.
Fast forward ten years,...
It’s the 1970s and we’re in Staten Island. Islanders have embraced that 70s laid back lifestyle and children are given lots of freedom: they roam the streets freely, running errands or playing until the streetlights come on.
Fast forward ten years, children are scared to leave their yards and parents anxiously scan the newspaper for any new disappearances.
What’s changed?
The emergence of a peculiar and disturbing man by the name of Andre Rand.
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Fast forward ten years, children are scared to leave their yards and parents anxiously scan the newspaper for any new disappearances.
What’s changed?
The emergence of a peculiar and disturbing man by the name of Andre Rand.
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Discretion is advised. This is ten
minuted murder. It's the nineteen seventies and
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we're in Staten Island. Islanders have
embraced that seventies laid back lifestyle, and
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children are given lots of freedom.
They roam the streets freely, running errands
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or playing until the street lights come
on. Fast forward ten years later,
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children are scared to leave their yards
and parents anxiously scan the newspaper for any
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new disappearances. So what's changed the
emergence of a peculiar and disturbing man by
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the name of Andre Rand. Andre
Rand was born Frank Russian on March eleventh,
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nineteen forty four, in Manhattan,
New York. He had a relatively
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peaceful childhood until fourteen, when his
father died, and shortly after his mother
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was admitted to a psychiatric hospital.
As he grew older, he began committing
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petty crimes, and those around him
would describe him as getting increasingly peculiar.
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However, our story doesn't begin with
andre Rand, but instead with a story
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of Cropsey. Cropsey was an urban
legend about an escaped mental patient who hunted
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children, taking them into tunnels of
abandoned buildings to kill them. The story
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was originally told around camp fires or
by older siblings just having some fun,
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but it soon took on a new
use. Parents began telling it as a
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cautionary tale against exploring a specific building, Willowbrook State School, and parents had
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good reasons for this. Willowbrook State
School was not a school, but a
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horrifying mental asylum. To give you
an idea of what Willowbrook was like,
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in nineteen sixty five, Senator Robert
F. Kennedy visited Willowbrook and described residents
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as living in filth and dirt,
their clothing in rags, and he described
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the rooms as quote less comfortable and
cheerful than the cages in which we put
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animals in a zoo. And honestly, that might have been a generous description,
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because this place was awful, like
the stuff of nightmares. The school
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was extremely understaffed, with about fifty
residents for every one Willowbrook attendant, and
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overcrowded, leading to frequent outbreaks of
diseases such as hepatitis. Though Kennedy made
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some suggestions to improve conditions, little
changed until nineteen seventy two, when ABC
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reporter Heraldo Rivera made headlines with a
TV expose on Willowbrook's abuse. That expose
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is available on YouTube, and the
footage is truly chilling, but worth watching
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anyway. The expose led to a
national outcry and understandably a few lawsuits.
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Willowbrook was promptly closed. Before we
go on, it's important to note that
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Willowbrook was built across three hundred seventy
five acres of land, so the buildings
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were all connected by a walkable underground
tunnel or tunnels for the staff to get
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around in the winter. When Willowbrook
closed, most of its residents were released
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into group homes or when to live
with their families, but some were left
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to basically fend for themselves. There
are reports of former residents camping in the
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nearby woods of Willowbrook and even occupying
the tunnels themselves. The story of Cropsey
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evolved to an escaped Willowbrook patient killing
his victims in Willowbrook's underground tunnels, and
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now that it involved a real place, the legend of Cropsey caught fire.
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So Willowbrook shuts down and its grounds
are admittedly a bit creepy, but everyone
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lives happily ever after. Right where
there's a bit more to the story.
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Than that. When Willowbrook was open, they clearly did not do a very
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thorough background check because from nineteen sixty
six to nineteen sixty eight they employed and
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orderly who went by the name of
Brushette. Brushette was simply Frank Russian's alias.
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When Willowbrook closed, Frank became unemployed, but instead of scrolling through Craigslist
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because that didn't exist, he found
a different, more sinister way to occupy
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his time. In May of nineteen
sixty nine, a passing police car noticed
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a suspicious looking van in a vacant
lot. Upon investigating, they discovered a
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naked Frank and a nine year old
girl. Frank was arrested and charged with
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attempted rape, serving sixteen months in
jail. Upon release, Frank legally changed
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his name to Andre Rand. And
I don't know about you, but if
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I'm a Staten Island judge and an
ex convict slash sex offender who's operated under
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ATLAS in the past petitions me to
change his name, I'd probably say no.
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But that's not how it went down, because in nineteen seventy two,
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Frank Russian legally became Andre Rand,
and this new Andre Rand was not the
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reformed man that he clearly convinced the
courts that he would become. On July
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seventh, nineteen seventy two, three
thirty pm, Alice Pierra was playing with
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her brother in the lobby of their
apartment building. Her brother left her alone
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for about a minute, and when
he returned, she was gone. Andre
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Rand was working as a painter in
that very building and was brought in for
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questioning, but released because of a
lack of evidence connecting him to Alice's disappearance.
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Alice was five when she disappeared and
has never been found, and the
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disappearances only continued. On a summer
day in nineteen eighty one, seven year
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old Holly Anne Hughes was sent to
the store to buy a bar of soap.
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Storekeepers at the Port Richmond Delhi confirmed
that Holly bought the soap, but
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she never made at home. In
investigating her disappearance, police discovered that she
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had been seen talking to Andrea Rand
outside the shop. They brought Andre in
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for questioning, and he admitted to
talking to Holly, even that he played
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hide and seek with her. Other
witnesses reported seeing Andre's green Volkswagen circling the
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Deli that Holly disappeared from. Once
again, authorities didn't have enough evidence to
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hold him, so Andre was released. Despite many searches, Holly has never
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been found. Okay, so far
we have two disappearances that Andre Rand seemed
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suspiciously connected to. But maybe he
was just really in the wrong place at
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the wrong time. But probably not
when you hear what he got up to.
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In nineteen eighty three, just two
years after Holly's disappearance, Andre drove
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a large van into a Staten Island
YMCA. Andrea convinced eleven children to get
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into the van, claiming that he
would drive them to a park. He
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then drove them to the Newark State
Airport, where he bought them all Whitecastle
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burghers. Why he did this is
truly a mystery. He claimed he only
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wanted to take the kids on a
fun excursion, and to be fair,
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he didn't actually harm the children,
but still he kidnapped and transported them across
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state lines without parental consent. Andrea
was arrested and the children returned home unscathed.
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He was given ten months in jail. Just twelve days after he was
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released, Andrea was on the prowl
again. On August fourteenth, nineteen eighty
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three, Tiahis Jackson disappeared on a
short errand to the supermarket. Police investigated,
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and wouldn't you know it, Andre
Rand was a suspect. He had
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a campsite at a cemetery creepy just
a half mile from where Tiahis lived,
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and Tiahise's mother had reported seeing a
man fitting his description lurking around the parking
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lot. Andrea was questioned, but
charges were not filed. Eleven year old
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Teaheis was never found. So this
trend of people going missing and being last
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seen with Andre Rand continued for several
years, most notably with the disappearance of
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Hank Gafario and Ethel Atwell. As
usual, Andrea is taken in for questioning,
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but there's not enough evidence to connect
him to the crime and he walks
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free. However, after years of
frustration, the police finally catch a break.
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On July ninth, nineteen eighty seven, twelve year old Jennifer Schweiger went
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for a short walk around her neighborhood. She had down syndrome, and when
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she felt restless, her mother would
instruct her to take a walk. On
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this particular day, though she did
not return Her parents called the police,
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and an investigation and search quickly ramped
up. Two eyewitnesses reported seeing Jennifer walking
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around with a middle aged man in
her last known moments. Others reported seeing
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Andrea's car circling the block that Jennifer
was walking on. Andrea was taken in
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for questioning, but authorities didn't have
enough evidence to reach conclusions, so he
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was released. It wasn't until the
thirty fifth day of the search that a
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volunteer noticed an unusual clumping of dirt
and clay. He began digging under that
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spot and discovered a little foot and
then Jennifer's entire body. Her body was
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buried just one hundred fifty yards from
a campsite that belonged to Andre Rand.
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Even worse, her body was found
on the grounds of Willowbrooke State School.
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Finally, authorities had enough evidence and
arrested Rand. He was charged with kidnapping
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and first degree murder. The jury
couldn't reach a verdict on the murder charge,
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but convicted Rand of kidnapping, sentencing
him to twenty five years to life
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in prison. Finally, eighteen years
after his reign of terror began, Andre
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Rand faced significant jailed time, and
the families of the victims received some sort
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of closure and a sense of justice. Andre Rand is still in jail.
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In two thousand and four, investigators
had enough evidence to bring charges on Rand
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for Holly Anne Hugh's disappearance. As
a new witness came forward, investigators pieced
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together that Andrea had offered Holly candy, pulled her into his car, and
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drove away. Rand was found guilty
of kidnapping and given twenty five years to
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life. Currently, he's serving time
at the Great Meadows Correctional Facility and won't
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become eligible for parole until he's ninety
three years old. So that's the story
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of Andrea Rand, the man that
showed us that often reality can be worse
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than imagination. More than half a
century after his first crime, much is
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still unknown about him, as he
operated in the shadows, darting around tunnels
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and graveyards, praying on the most
vulnerable. Still, one thing is certain.
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He has ensured that the legend of
Cropsy will live on and on.
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today? I appreciate you asking,
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an exciting day. I slipped down
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ten would not recommend. And you
know how, when you fall down,
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you officially know how old you are
because the people. If you fall down
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and people laugh, you're cool.
Everything's good. When you fall down and
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people look concerned, that means you've
gotten old. It was a mix of
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the two when I fell today in
the parking lot, So that tracks all
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right quickly. This email today comes
from Robert in Tallahassee. Hi Joe,
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great podcast. I'm curious. Your
audio always sounds so good, unlike many
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other true crime shows I listened to, not Robert throwing shade. What kind
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of microphone do you use, Robert? It is a Sinheiser mk H four
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sixteen. And if you don't know
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you. That's like another language.
But just know that it looks like I'm
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talking into a giant magic marker.
When I first started this podcast, I
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bought the one that all podcasters seem
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and I've had this one that I'm
using now four years and years and
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years from doing voiceovers. But I
bought the one that looks like a podcast
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microphone because I thought, hey,
this will make my voice sound more podcasting.
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I used it on a couple of
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so I sold it and I went
back to the microphone that I've been using
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for a very long time. Well, okayd okay, that's going to do
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it for this episode today. I'm
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minutes of time listening to this podcast. It means the world to me.
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Thank you. For listening to ten
minute murder
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Discretion is advised. This is ten
minuted murder. It's the nineteen seventies and
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00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:40.000
we're in Staten Island. Islanders have
embraced that seventies laid back lifestyle, and
3
00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:45.039
children are given lots of freedom.
They roam the streets freely, running errands
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00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:49.759
or playing until the street lights come
on. Fast forward ten years later,
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00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:55.359
children are scared to leave their yards
and parents anxiously scan the newspaper for any
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00:00:55.399 --> 00:01:02.799
new disappearances. So what's changed the
emergence of a peculiar and disturbing man by
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00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:08.280
the name of Andre Rand. Andre
Rand was born Frank Russian on March eleventh,
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00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:12.120
nineteen forty four, in Manhattan,
New York. He had a relatively
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00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:18.480
peaceful childhood until fourteen, when his
father died, and shortly after his mother
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00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:23.040
was admitted to a psychiatric hospital.
As he grew older, he began committing
11
00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:27.560
petty crimes, and those around him
would describe him as getting increasingly peculiar.
12
00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:34.519
However, our story doesn't begin with
andre Rand, but instead with a story
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00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:41.000
of Cropsey. Cropsey was an urban
legend about an escaped mental patient who hunted
14
00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:46.400
children, taking them into tunnels of
abandoned buildings to kill them. The story
15
00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:51.519
was originally told around camp fires or
by older siblings just having some fun,
16
00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:56.280
but it soon took on a new
use. Parents began telling it as a
17
00:01:56.319 --> 00:02:02.000
cautionary tale against exploring a specific building, Willowbrook State School, and parents had
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00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:07.760
good reasons for this. Willowbrook State
School was not a school, but a
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00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:12.159
horrifying mental asylum. To give you
an idea of what Willowbrook was like,
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00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:16.879
in nineteen sixty five, Senator Robert
F. Kennedy visited Willowbrook and described residents
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as living in filth and dirt,
their clothing in rags, and he described
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the rooms as quote less comfortable and
cheerful than the cages in which we put
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animals in a zoo. And honestly, that might have been a generous description,
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because this place was awful, like
the stuff of nightmares. The school
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was extremely understaffed, with about fifty
residents for every one Willowbrook attendant, and
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overcrowded, leading to frequent outbreaks of
diseases such as hepatitis. Though Kennedy made
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some suggestions to improve conditions, little
changed until nineteen seventy two, when ABC
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reporter Heraldo Rivera made headlines with a
TV expose on Willowbrook's abuse. That expose
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is available on YouTube, and the
footage is truly chilling, but worth watching
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anyway. The expose led to a
national outcry and understandably a few lawsuits.
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Willowbrook was promptly closed. Before we
go on, it's important to note that
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Willowbrook was built across three hundred seventy
five acres of land, so the buildings
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were all connected by a walkable underground
tunnel or tunnels for the staff to get
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around in the winter. When Willowbrook
closed, most of its residents were released
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into group homes or when to live
with their families, but some were left
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to basically fend for themselves. There
are reports of former residents camping in the
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nearby woods of Willowbrook and even occupying
the tunnels themselves. The story of Cropsey
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evolved to an escaped Willowbrook patient killing
his victims in Willowbrook's underground tunnels, and
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now that it involved a real place, the legend of Cropsey caught fire.
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So Willowbrook shuts down and its grounds
are admittedly a bit creepy, but everyone
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lives happily ever after. Right where
there's a bit more to the story.
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Than that. When Willowbrook was open, they clearly did not do a very
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thorough background check because from nineteen sixty
six to nineteen sixty eight they employed and
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orderly who went by the name of
Brushette. Brushette was simply Frank Russian's alias.
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When Willowbrook closed, Frank became unemployed, but instead of scrolling through Craigslist
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because that didn't exist, he found
a different, more sinister way to occupy
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his time. In May of nineteen
sixty nine, a passing police car noticed
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a suspicious looking van in a vacant
lot. Upon investigating, they discovered a
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naked Frank and a nine year old
girl. Frank was arrested and charged with
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attempted rape, serving sixteen months in
jail. Upon release, Frank legally changed
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his name to Andre Rand. And
I don't know about you, but if
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I'm a Staten Island judge and an
ex convict slash sex offender who's operated under
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ATLAS in the past petitions me to
change his name, I'd probably say no.
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But that's not how it went down, because in nineteen seventy two,
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Frank Russian legally became Andre Rand,
and this new Andre Rand was not the
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reformed man that he clearly convinced the
courts that he would become. On July
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seventh, nineteen seventy two, three
thirty pm, Alice Pierra was playing with
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her brother in the lobby of their
apartment building. Her brother left her alone
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for about a minute, and when
he returned, she was gone. Andre
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Rand was working as a painter in
that very building and was brought in for
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questioning, but released because of a
lack of evidence connecting him to Alice's disappearance.
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Alice was five when she disappeared and
has never been found, and the
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disappearances only continued. On a summer
day in nineteen eighty one, seven year
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old Holly Anne Hughes was sent to
the store to buy a bar of soap.
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Storekeepers at the Port Richmond Delhi confirmed
that Holly bought the soap, but
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she never made at home. In
investigating her disappearance, police discovered that she
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had been seen talking to Andrea Rand
outside the shop. They brought Andre in
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for questioning, and he admitted to
talking to Holly, even that he played
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hide and seek with her. Other
witnesses reported seeing Andre's green Volkswagen circling the
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Deli that Holly disappeared from. Once
again, authorities didn't have enough evidence to
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hold him, so Andre was released. Despite many searches, Holly has never
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been found. Okay, so far
we have two disappearances that Andre Rand seemed
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suspiciously connected to. But maybe he
was just really in the wrong place at
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the wrong time. But probably not
when you hear what he got up to.
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In nineteen eighty three, just two
years after Holly's disappearance, Andre drove
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a large van into a Staten Island
YMCA. Andrea convinced eleven children to get
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into the van, claiming that he
would drive them to a park. He
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then drove them to the Newark State
Airport, where he bought them all Whitecastle
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burghers. Why he did this is
truly a mystery. He claimed he only
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wanted to take the kids on a
fun excursion, and to be fair,
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he didn't actually harm the children,
but still he kidnapped and transported them across
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state lines without parental consent. Andrea
was arrested and the children returned home unscathed.
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He was given ten months in jail. Just twelve days after he was
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released, Andrea was on the prowl
again. On August fourteenth, nineteen eighty
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three, Tiahis Jackson disappeared on a
short errand to the supermarket. Police investigated,
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and wouldn't you know it, Andre
Rand was a suspect. He had
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a campsite at a cemetery creepy just
a half mile from where Tiahis lived,
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and Tiahise's mother had reported seeing a
man fitting his description lurking around the parking
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lot. Andrea was questioned, but
charges were not filed. Eleven year old
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Teaheis was never found. So this
trend of people going missing and being last
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seen with Andre Rand continued for several
years, most notably with the disappearance of
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Hank Gafario and Ethel Atwell. As
usual, Andrea is taken in for questioning,
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but there's not enough evidence to connect
him to the crime and he walks
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free. However, after years of
frustration, the police finally catch a break.
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On July ninth, nineteen eighty seven, twelve year old Jennifer Schweiger went
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for a short walk around her neighborhood. She had down syndrome, and when
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she felt restless, her mother would
instruct her to take a walk. On
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this particular day, though she did
not return Her parents called the police,
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and an investigation and search quickly ramped
up. Two eyewitnesses reported seeing Jennifer walking
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around with a middle aged man in
her last known moments. Others reported seeing
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Andrea's car circling the block that Jennifer
was walking on. Andrea was taken in
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for questioning, but authorities didn't have
enough evidence to reach conclusions, so he
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was released. It wasn't until the
thirty fifth day of the search that a
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volunteer noticed an unusual clumping of dirt
and clay. He began digging under that
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spot and discovered a little foot and
then Jennifer's entire body. Her body was
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buried just one hundred fifty yards from
a campsite that belonged to Andre Rand.
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Even worse, her body was found
on the grounds of Willowbrooke State School.
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Finally, authorities had enough evidence and
arrested Rand. He was charged with kidnapping
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and first degree murder. The jury
couldn't reach a verdict on the murder charge,
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but convicted Rand of kidnapping, sentencing
him to twenty five years to life
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in prison. Finally, eighteen years
after his reign of terror began, Andre
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Rand faced significant jailed time, and
the families of the victims received some sort
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of closure and a sense of justice. Andre Rand is still in jail.
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In two thousand and four, investigators
had enough evidence to bring charges on Rand
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for Holly Anne Hugh's disappearance. As
a new witness came forward, investigators pieced
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together that Andrea had offered Holly candy, pulled her into his car, and
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drove away. Rand was found guilty
of kidnapping and given twenty five years to
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life. Currently, he's serving time
at the Great Meadows Correctional Facility and won't
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become eligible for parole until he's ninety
three years old. So that's the story
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of Andrea Rand, the man that
showed us that often reality can be worse
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than imagination. More than half a
century after his first crime, much is
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still unknown about him, as he
operated in the shadows, darting around tunnels
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and graveyards, praying on the most
vulnerable. Still, one thing is certain.
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He has ensured that the legend of
Cropsy will live on and on.
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That's ten minute Murder for today,
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today? I appreciate you asking,
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an exciting day. I slipped down
in the target parking lot zero out of
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ten would not recommend. And you
know how, when you fall down,
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you officially know how old you are
because the people. If you fall down
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and people laugh, you're cool.
Everything's good. When you fall down and
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people look concerned, that means you've
gotten old. It was a mix of
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the two when I fell today in
the parking lot, So that tracks all
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right quickly. This email today comes
from Robert in Tallahassee. Hi Joe,
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great podcast. I'm curious. Your
audio always sounds so good, unlike many
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other true crime shows I listened to, not Robert throwing shade. What kind
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of microphone do you use, Robert? It is a Sinheiser mk H four
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sixteen. And if you don't know
anything about microphones, that means nothing to
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you. That's like another language.
But just know that it looks like I'm
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talking into a giant magic marker.
When I first started this podcast, I
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bought the one that all podcasters seem
to use, that Shore SM seven B,
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and I've had this one that I'm
using now four years and years and
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years from doing voiceovers. But I
bought the one that looks like a podcast
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microphone because I thought, hey,
this will make my voice sound more podcasting.
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I used it on a couple of
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so I sold it and I went
back to the microphone that I've been using
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for a very long time. Well, okayd okay, that's going to do
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