Dec. 21, 2023
Dead People Are All On The Same Level

In the 1950s, 19-year-old Charles Starkweather went on a killing spree, bringing his 14-year-old girlfriend with him.
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Discretion is advised. This is ten
minuted murder. According to the FBI,
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there's one key difference between a serial
killer and a spree killer. While serial
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killers have a cooling off period between
their crimes, spree killers typically continue to
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kill over a short period of time. Criminal psychologists and investigators have struggled to
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understand the psychology behind spree killers,
but for many criminals, details about their
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childhoods can pull back the curtain,
providing an insight into the horrific crimes they
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commit as adults. For Charles Stark
Weather born in Nebraska in nineteen thirty eight,
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his resentment of other people was the
motivator for his crimes, and it
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began to develop at a very young
age. Charles was an unhappy child.
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He had a birth defect that affected
the shape of his legs, and he
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claimed that his classmates bullied him because
of his speech impediment. When he became
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a teenager, he fell in love
with exercising, and now that he was
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strong enough, he turned the tables
and started threatening and beating up his bullies.
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Quote. He could be the kindest
person you've ever met, said one
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of his school friends. He'd do
anything for you if you liked you.
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He was a hell of a lot
of fun to be around too. Everything
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was just one big joke to him. But he had this other side.
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He could be mean as hell cruel. If he saw some poor guy in
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the street who was bigger than he
was, better looking, or better dressed,
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he tried to to the poor bastard
down to his size. Charles's classmates
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weren't the only people to notice that
he had this dark side. By the
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time he reached his late teens,
his family was so terrified of his fits
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of rage that they started avoiding him. In his senior year, in nineteen
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fifty six, Charles dropped out of
school and started working at a newspaper warehouse.
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At around this time, Charles was
introduced to a girl who immediately stole
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his heart. Her name was Carol
Ann Fuguet and she was only thirteen years
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old. Charles was eighteen. Charles's
job at the warehouse was close to where
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Carol went to school, so he
started going to visit her after classes were
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finished. Because Carol was again only
thirteen, she couldn't drive, and Charles
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decided that he would be the one
to teach her how to drive. For
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Carol's driving lessons. He borrowed his
dad's car and she promptly crashed it,
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causing Charles to be kicked out of
his home for gm good. Throughout his
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whole life, Charles had been a
pessimist, always seeing the worst in people.
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Now his worldview began to deteriorate.
He started believing in nihilism, thinking
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that because life was meaningless, there
was nothing to stop him from gaining power
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over other people at any cost.
He even created his own motto to live
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his life by dead people are all
on the same level. And I think
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I understand what he means by that. But as far as life mottos are
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concerned, if you look past the
dark nature of it, it's extremely unintelligence.
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Something like a high school dropout would
come up with. Charles put this
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new philosophy into action for the first
time. On November thirtieth, nineteen fifty
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seven. He was at a gas
station trying to buy a stuffed animal,
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but the attendant wouldn't let him buy
it on credit. The next night,
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he returned to the gas station to
buy multiple other items, and he had
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a gun with him. He robbed
the attendant for one hundred dollars cab.
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Then he forced that attendant into his
car, drove to an isolated location where
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he fatally shot the man in the
head. And if you're wondering why he
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was trying to buy a stuffed animal
on credit, his girlfriend is thirteen years
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old. The gas station killing wasn't
the real beginning of Charles's killing spree.
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For him, it was just a
warm up. The spree began in January
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of nineteen fifty eight, when Charles
drove to his now fourteen year old girlfriend's
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home. Carrol's family understandably did not
like their daughter's boyfriend, and they told
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Charles to go away beat it.
In response, Charles drew his weapon and
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fatally shot Carol's mother and stepfather.
Then he advanced on Carol's sister, two
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year old Betty Jean. Instead of
shooting the toddler, Charles beat her to
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death. This is where Charles and
Carol's stories begin to differ. According to
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Charles, Carol had been there the
whole time, arriving with him at the
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beginning of the night and watching as
he killed her family. However, Carol
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insisted that she had arrived at the
house later and found out that Charles was
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brandishing a weapon and holding her family
hostage. He reportedly told her that if
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she didn't cooperate with him, he
would kill her family. Whatever happened,
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Charles and Carroll stayed at the house
for the next six days until Carol's grandmother
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asked the police to go to the
house and carry out a welfare check.
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By the time the officers arrived,
Charles had hidden the bodies and the couple
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were long gone. Two days later, Charles's brother and one of his friends
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also came to the house, where
they found the remains of Carroll's family and
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called the police. Charles and Carroll
were officially wanted for murder. During their
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time on the run, the pair
drove to the home of one of Charles's
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family's friends, seventy year old August
Meyer. Charles shot August in the head
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and then killed his dog. While
they were fleeing the scene, Charles and
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Carroll's vehicle got stuck in the mud, forcing them to abandon it and hitch
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a ride. They were picked up
by two teenagers, Carol King and Robert
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Jensen. As soon as Charles and
Carroll were in the car, Charles pulled
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out his gun and forced Robert to
drive them to an unused storm shelter.
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Whence they were there, Charles fatally
shot Robert. He then tried to sexually
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assault Carroll, but when he failed, he shot her out of anger.
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However, he claimed that his girlfriend, Carol had actually been the one to
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shoot her. Carrol later claimed that
she had remained in Robert's car the entire
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time and had not seen what took
place in the storm shelter. The couple
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then drove to a wealthy area of
Lincoln, Nebraska, where they broke into
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the home of a wealthy businessman named
Chester Ward. Charles killed Chester and his
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wife Clara when they returned to the
house. To prevent the family dog from
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barking at them, he killed the
dog with his bare hands. Clara was
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the first person to arrive home and
was stabbed to death. When Chester arrived
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home later, he was fatally shot, leaving all members of the household dead.
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Charles and Carroll stole the luxury car
parked outside, taking some of the
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couple's jewelry with them as they drove
out of Nebraska. Investigators suspected that Charles
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and Carroll were behind these murders,
but despite multiple sightings, they were unable
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to find and apprehend them. Meanwhile, after arriving in Wyoming, Charles and
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Carroll knew that they needed to swamp
out their stolen car, so they shot
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a traveling salesman who was sleeping in
a parked car and stole his vehicle.
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However, this new car was equipped
with a parking brake, something that Charles
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had never had experience with. He
never released the break, causing the car
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to stall. When a motorist pulled
over to help, Charles threatened the man
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with his gun. A sheriff's deputy
came to investigate the commotion shortly afterwards,
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and Carol ran over to him,
saying, it's dark weather. He's going
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to kill me. Charles fled from
the scene, but was captured by the
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police after being chased down by three
police officers in a high speed car chase.
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Carrol, who had remained with the
sheriff, had already been arrested.
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Throughout her interrogations and during her trial, Carol always insisted that Charles held her
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hostage, telling her that if she
didn't do what he said, he'd kill
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her family. Over and over.
She had promised she'd never killed anyone.
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Initially, Charles backed up Carrol's story, saying that he'd kidnapped her and she
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had not participated in his crimes.
Later, he changed his story enough that
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he ended up testifying against her in
court, insisting that she had been a
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willing participant in calling her the most
trigger happy person he'd ever met. Charles
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was only tried for one murder,
Robert Jensen, the teenage boy who had
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given him a lift, and he
was found guilty in May of nineteen fifty
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eight and sentenced to death by electric
chair, which took place the following year.
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Reportedly, Charles was never concerned about
the sentence or afraid of death,
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but insisted that if he was going
to be killed for his crimes, Carol
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should die too. He never spoke
any official last words, but instead his
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last words were in a letter he
wrote to his family which read quote,
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but Dad, I'm not real sorry
for what I did because for the first
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time, me and Carol have more
fun. Despite Charles's insistence that his girlfriend
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should be executed as well, Carol
was sentenced as an accomplice and sentenced to
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life in prison. After serving just
over seventeen years of her sentence, her
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application for parole was approved in nineteen
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Discretion is advised. This is ten
minuted murder. According to the FBI,
2
00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:41.719
there's one key difference between a serial
killer and a spree killer. While serial
3
00:00:41.799 --> 00:00:46.600
killers have a cooling off period between
their crimes, spree killers typically continue to
4
00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:52.399
kill over a short period of time. Criminal psychologists and investigators have struggled to
5
00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:58.039
understand the psychology behind spree killers,
but for many criminals, details about their
6
00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:03.280
childhoods can pull back the curtain,
providing an insight into the horrific crimes they
7
00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:07.920
commit as adults. For Charles Stark
Weather born in Nebraska in nineteen thirty eight,
8
00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:12.760
his resentment of other people was the
motivator for his crimes, and it
9
00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:18.879
began to develop at a very young
age. Charles was an unhappy child.
10
00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:23.120
He had a birth defect that affected
the shape of his legs, and he
11
00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:26.879
claimed that his classmates bullied him because
of his speech impediment. When he became
12
00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:32.120
a teenager, he fell in love
with exercising, and now that he was
13
00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:37.040
strong enough, he turned the tables
and started threatening and beating up his bullies.
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00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:41.319
Quote. He could be the kindest
person you've ever met, said one
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00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:44.159
of his school friends. He'd do
anything for you if you liked you.
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He was a hell of a lot
of fun to be around too. Everything
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was just one big joke to him. But he had this other side.
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He could be mean as hell cruel. If he saw some poor guy in
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the street who was bigger than he
was, better looking, or better dressed,
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00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:02.640
he tried to to the poor bastard
down to his size. Charles's classmates
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00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:07.080
weren't the only people to notice that
he had this dark side. By the
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00:02:07.080 --> 00:02:10.879
time he reached his late teens,
his family was so terrified of his fits
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00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:15.400
of rage that they started avoiding him. In his senior year, in nineteen
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fifty six, Charles dropped out of
school and started working at a newspaper warehouse.
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At around this time, Charles was
introduced to a girl who immediately stole
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his heart. Her name was Carol
Ann Fuguet and she was only thirteen years
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old. Charles was eighteen. Charles's
job at the warehouse was close to where
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Carol went to school, so he
started going to visit her after classes were
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finished. Because Carol was again only
thirteen, she couldn't drive, and Charles
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decided that he would be the one
to teach her how to drive. For
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Carol's driving lessons. He borrowed his
dad's car and she promptly crashed it,
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causing Charles to be kicked out of
his home for gm good. Throughout his
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whole life, Charles had been a
pessimist, always seeing the worst in people.
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Now his worldview began to deteriorate.
He started believing in nihilism, thinking
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that because life was meaningless, there
was nothing to stop him from gaining power
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over other people at any cost.
He even created his own motto to live
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his life by dead people are all
on the same level. And I think
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I understand what he means by that. But as far as life mottos are
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concerned, if you look past the
dark nature of it, it's extremely unintelligence.
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Something like a high school dropout would
come up with. Charles put this
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new philosophy into action for the first
time. On November thirtieth, nineteen fifty
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seven. He was at a gas
station trying to buy a stuffed animal,
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but the attendant wouldn't let him buy
it on credit. The next night,
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he returned to the gas station to
buy multiple other items, and he had
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a gun with him. He robbed
the attendant for one hundred dollars cab.
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Then he forced that attendant into his
car, drove to an isolated location where
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he fatally shot the man in the
head. And if you're wondering why he
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was trying to buy a stuffed animal
on credit, his girlfriend is thirteen years
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old. The gas station killing wasn't
the real beginning of Charles's killing spree.
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For him, it was just a
warm up. The spree began in January
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of nineteen fifty eight, when Charles
drove to his now fourteen year old girlfriend's
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home. Carrol's family understandably did not
like their daughter's boyfriend, and they told
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Charles to go away beat it.
In response, Charles drew his weapon and
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fatally shot Carol's mother and stepfather.
Then he advanced on Carol's sister, two
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year old Betty Jean. Instead of
shooting the toddler, Charles beat her to
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death. This is where Charles and
Carol's stories begin to differ. According to
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Charles, Carol had been there the
whole time, arriving with him at the
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beginning of the night and watching as
he killed her family. However, Carol
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insisted that she had arrived at the
house later and found out that Charles was
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brandishing a weapon and holding her family
hostage. He reportedly told her that if
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she didn't cooperate with him, he
would kill her family. Whatever happened,
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Charles and Carroll stayed at the house
for the next six days until Carol's grandmother
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asked the police to go to the
house and carry out a welfare check.
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By the time the officers arrived,
Charles had hidden the bodies and the couple
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were long gone. Two days later, Charles's brother and one of his friends
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also came to the house, where
they found the remains of Carroll's family and
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called the police. Charles and Carroll
were officially wanted for murder. During their
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time on the run, the pair
drove to the home of one of Charles's
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family's friends, seventy year old August
Meyer. Charles shot August in the head
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and then killed his dog. While
they were fleeing the scene, Charles and
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Carroll's vehicle got stuck in the mud, forcing them to abandon it and hitch
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a ride. They were picked up
by two teenagers, Carol King and Robert
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Jensen. As soon as Charles and
Carroll were in the car, Charles pulled
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out his gun and forced Robert to
drive them to an unused storm shelter.
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Whence they were there, Charles fatally
shot Robert. He then tried to sexually
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assault Carroll, but when he failed, he shot her out of anger.
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However, he claimed that his girlfriend, Carol had actually been the one to
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shoot her. Carrol later claimed that
she had remained in Robert's car the entire
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time and had not seen what took
place in the storm shelter. The couple
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then drove to a wealthy area of
Lincoln, Nebraska, where they broke into
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the home of a wealthy businessman named
Chester Ward. Charles killed Chester and his
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wife Clara when they returned to the
house. To prevent the family dog from
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barking at them, he killed the
dog with his bare hands. Clara was
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the first person to arrive home and
was stabbed to death. When Chester arrived
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home later, he was fatally shot, leaving all members of the household dead.
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Charles and Carroll stole the luxury car
parked outside, taking some of the
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couple's jewelry with them as they drove
out of Nebraska. Investigators suspected that Charles
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and Carroll were behind these murders,
but despite multiple sightings, they were unable
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to find and apprehend them. Meanwhile, after arriving in Wyoming, Charles and
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Carroll knew that they needed to swamp
out their stolen car, so they shot
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a traveling salesman who was sleeping in
a parked car and stole his vehicle.
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However, this new car was equipped
with a parking brake, something that Charles
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had never had experience with. He
never released the break, causing the car
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to stall. When a motorist pulled
over to help, Charles threatened the man
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with his gun. A sheriff's deputy
came to investigate the commotion shortly afterwards,
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and Carol ran over to him,
saying, it's dark weather. He's going
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to kill me. Charles fled from
the scene, but was captured by the
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police after being chased down by three
police officers in a high speed car chase.
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Carrol, who had remained with the
sheriff, had already been arrested.
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Throughout her interrogations and during her trial, Carol always insisted that Charles held her
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hostage, telling her that if she
didn't do what he said, he'd kill
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her family. Over and over.
She had promised she'd never killed anyone.
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Initially, Charles backed up Carrol's story, saying that he'd kidnapped her and she
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had not participated in his crimes.
Later, he changed his story enough that
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he ended up testifying against her in
court, insisting that she had been a
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willing participant in calling her the most
trigger happy person he'd ever met. Charles
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was only tried for one murder,
Robert Jensen, the teenage boy who had
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given him a lift, and he
was found guilty in May of nineteen fifty
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eight and sentenced to death by electric
chair, which took place the following year.
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Reportedly, Charles was never concerned about
the sentence or afraid of death,
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but insisted that if he was going
to be killed for his crimes, Carol
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should die too. He never spoke
any official last words, but instead his
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last words were in a letter he
wrote to his family which read quote,
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but Dad, I'm not real sorry
for what I did because for the first
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time, me and Carol have more
fun. Despite Charles's insistence that his girlfriend
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should be executed as well, Carol
was sentenced as an accomplice and sentenced to
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life in prison. After serving just
over seventeen years of her sentence, her
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application for parole was approved in nineteen
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