Feb. 29, 2024
George Stinney Jr

A young black boy was executed in 1944 for the murders of two young white girls in a small southern town. 80 years later, his guilt is still a topic of debate. Not only is the case still debated, it is as fresh in the minds of the family members as...
A young black boy was executed in 1944 for the murders of two young white girls in a small southern town. 80 years later, his guilt is still a topic of debate. Not only is the case still debated, it is as fresh in the minds of the family members as it was then. The emotions are still raw and the outcome still devastating. .
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Disprushing. Mister George Stenny Junior was
born on October twenty first, nineteen twenty
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nine. He grew up in al
Klou, South Carolina. His father,
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George Stenny Senior, worked at the
local lumberyard in Sawmill. The sawmill brought
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a lot of life to the small
town, employing many of its residents.
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The Stenny family even lived in a
company owned house. Their house was small,
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with a chicken coop in the back
room, enough for George, his
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parents, and his siblings. When
George Stenny was fourteen, he was still
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pretty small. He was only five
foot one inch and around ninety five pounds.
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He had a younger sister named Amy
that he often referred to as his
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shadow. She followed him everywhere he
went. On March twenty second, nineteen
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forty four, they were playing outside
of the house when two little white girls
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riding their bikes stopped to talk to
them. This was extremely unusual at the
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time. The town was still extremely
segregated. The white and black families attended
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different churches, the children went to
separate schools, and the railroad tracks divided
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their housing. The girls were looking
for may Pops. It's a name they
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used in that area for passion flowers, and Stenny told them he didn't know
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where to look for the maypops,
so the girls continued on their way.
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The next day, while his parents
were away at work, two black cars
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rolled down the dusty driveway. Amy
was scared and she hid in the chicken
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coop. George and his brother John
were taken into custody and questioned for murder.
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Betty June Binnaker, age eleven,
and Mary Emma Thames, aged seven,
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never made it home from their bike
ride. Their bodies had been found
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on the black side of the train
tracks, their heads beaten with a blunt
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object strong enough to crush their skulls, and the oldest had physical signs that
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she may have been raped. John
was released, but George Stenney was charged
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with the crimes. One of the
arresting officers claimed that Stenny gave a full
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confession and even told them where to
look for the murder weapon. After a
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search of the area, they found
a railroad spike. In just eighty one
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days, Stinney was dead too.
The trial started and ended on April twenty
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fourth. Stenny's defense was made up
of one court appointed council, Charles plowdhim
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X commissioner that was running for a
local office. The prosecution called on three
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of the arresting officers, the reverend
that discovered the girl's bodies, and the
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two doctors that performed the post mortem
exams. Plowden didn't even cross examine the
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prosecution's witnesses, called in none of
his own, did not challenge the prosecutor's
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recollection of events even though he told
two different versions, and did not question
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why there was no record written or
confirmed of the confession. He did nothing
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to defend George Stenney Junior. The
entire proceeding lasted only two and a half
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hours. In less than ten minutes, the jury, which consisted of twelve
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white men, returned from deliberation with
a verdict of guilty for the fourteen year
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old boy. Judge Philip Stole sentenced
Stenny to death by electrocution. The crowd
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both in and around the courthouse seemed
pretty pleased with the finding. There were
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over one thousand white men and women
that showed up for the trial, even
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though the defendant was black. They
did not allow black men or women in
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the court house. From the time
Stenny was arrested. His parents were not
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allowed to see him until after the
trial. He sat in the interrogation rooms
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alone, no parents and no counsel. He sat in jail awaiting the trial
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alone. His parents had not been
allowed to visit or communicate with him at
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all. Stenny's father was fired from
his job, and since they lived in
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a company owned house, they had
to immediately move. They relocated closer to
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grandparents while they figured out what to
do. They tried to find someone to
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help them appeal the ruling. Local
churches and the NAACP appealed to Governor Olan
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Johnson to consider clemency considering the age
of the boy. Ironically, most of
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the letters he received were from white
women that didn't want to see someone so
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young executed. The governor visited Stenny
to two days before his execution. The
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governor said that he wanted those begging
for clemency to know that Stenny killed the
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smaller girl so that he could rape
the bigger one, but then he killed
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the bigger one before raping her dead
body. He even returned later with the
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intention of raping her again, but
found the body was already too cold.
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He claimed Stenny admitted all of it. Of course, it was reported that
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all of those were rumors that the
governor heard, and that it never came
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from Stenny directly. Steney told other
inmates that he was coerced and maintained his
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innocence. On June sixteenth, nineteen
forty four, at seven thirty a m.
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He was prepared for execution. His
arms and legs and body were restrained
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to the chair. He was too
short, so they placed a thick bible
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under him. When asked if he
had any last words, he said no,
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sir. Then they placed the leather
strap in his mouth, and he
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burst into tears. They placed him
that seemed way too large on his head,
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and his sobs could be heard around
the room. With the first flick
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of electricity, the mask shook off
of his head, revealing the tear stained
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face of the young boy. It
took three flips of the switch before he
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was pronounced dead. There was a
witness from one of the victim's families and
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said that the event was not nearly
so dramatic. He denied that they placed
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a bible under him or that the
mask fell off as soon as the electricity
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was turned on. Exact records of
the event cannot be found, so we
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can only go on what is recounted
from those that were there. So why
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eighty years later is this case still
being debated In case you haven't been able
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to tell so far in the story, very little has been actually agreed upon
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what occurred in nineteen forty four.
In two thousand and four, George Friarson,
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a historian that grew up in al
Kalou, started researching the case.
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It wasn't long before several pro bono
lawyers got involved, and then they got
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more people to volunteer. They went
through historical documents, found witnesses, and
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located evidence that they believe could exonerate
Stenny. Although there was no transcript of
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the actual trial, a motion for
a new trial was filed in twenty thirteen.
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In twenty fourteen, the Civil Rights
and Restorative Justice Project at Northeastern University
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filed an amicus brief with the court
stating that the case was based exclusively on
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a confession that was not recorded or
written, and taken without the consent of
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parents or presence of counsel. Rather
than approving a new trial, the judge
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vacated the conviction. The overturning of
the conviction did not mean that Stenny was
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innocent, but that he did not
receive a fair trial and should not have
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been executed so quickly. The new
ruling also caused a flood of responses.
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The Stenny family was thrilled. They
always claimed that Stenny was innocent, that
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he was with the siblings when the
murders occurred and he could not have done
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it. The Bickner and Thames families
were disappointed. While they understood that he
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may not have received a fair trial, they felt as though he was being
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painted as a poor black boy that
was unfairly charged with a crime, but
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in reality was undoubtedly guilty. The
different opinions continued to be vocalized. There
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was an interview from Stinney's seventh grade
teacher that was published in nineteen ninety five.
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They claimed he had threatened a girl
at school the day the crime took
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place. Amy Stenny's sister contacted him
and claimed that he told her it was
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not true, but he was paid
to say that the teacher died shortly after,
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so neither side of the story could
be confirmed. The reverend that found
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the bodies said that there was very
little blood in the ditch, considering how
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badly the girls had been beaten.
If they had been killed there, it
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seemed as though there would be a
lot more blood if they had been killed
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somewhere else and then moved there.
It didn't seem possible that such a small
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child could have picked them both up
and carried them. There was a theory
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that the girls may have been killed
by George Burke Junior. Stinny's mom worked
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for their family for a short time. They were a wealthy white family.
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She was uncomfortable with the advances of
the father. When she told her husband
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about it, he told her not
to return to work for that family.
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Missus Burke was angry over the whole
event, maybe a little embarrassed, and
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the theory is that the boys hurt
the girls and pinned it on George Stenney
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Junior to get even. Added to
that, George Burke Senior owned the property
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where the girls were found and served
as the foreman on the grand jury in
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Stinney's case. Supposedly a member of
the family made a deathbed confession about the
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event, but once again there are
no records and no one to confirm it.
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Now, Alcalou, South Carolina,
seems like a forgotten town with a
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population of around four hundred people.
Weeds have reclaimed, old buildings, and
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vacant stores line the streets, yet
the memory of what happened is far from
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fading. Three memorial crosses are placed
at the ditch where the girls were found,
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one for each young life lost after
a tragic event. Sometimes it's not
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the truth that decides the outcome of
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persuaded by which side is the most
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Disprushing. Mister George Stenny Junior was
born on October twenty first, nineteen twenty
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nine. He grew up in al
Klou, South Carolina. His father,
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George Stenny Senior, worked at the
local lumberyard in Sawmill. The sawmill brought
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a lot of life to the small
town, employing many of its residents.
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The Stenny family even lived in a
company owned house. Their house was small,
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with a chicken coop in the back
room, enough for George, his
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parents, and his siblings. When
George Stenny was fourteen, he was still
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pretty small. He was only five
foot one inch and around ninety five pounds.
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He had a younger sister named Amy
that he often referred to as his
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shadow. She followed him everywhere he
went. On March twenty second, nineteen
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forty four, they were playing outside
of the house when two little white girls
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riding their bikes stopped to talk to
them. This was extremely unusual at the
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time. The town was still extremely
segregated. The white and black families attended
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different churches, the children went to
separate schools, and the railroad tracks divided
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their housing. The girls were looking
for may Pops. It's a name they
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used in that area for passion flowers, and Stenny told them he didn't know
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where to look for the maypops,
so the girls continued on their way.
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The next day, while his parents
were away at work, two black cars
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rolled down the dusty driveway. Amy
was scared and she hid in the chicken
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coop. George and his brother John
were taken into custody and questioned for murder.
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Betty June Binnaker, age eleven,
and Mary Emma Thames, aged seven,
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never made it home from their bike
ride. Their bodies had been found
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on the black side of the train
tracks, their heads beaten with a blunt
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object strong enough to crush their skulls, and the oldest had physical signs that
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she may have been raped. John
was released, but George Stenney was charged
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with the crimes. One of the
arresting officers claimed that Stenny gave a full
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confession and even told them where to
look for the murder weapon. After a
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search of the area, they found
a railroad spike. In just eighty one
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days, Stinney was dead too.
The trial started and ended on April twenty
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fourth. Stenny's defense was made up
of one court appointed council, Charles plowdhim
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X commissioner that was running for a
local office. The prosecution called on three
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of the arresting officers, the reverend
that discovered the girl's bodies, and the
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two doctors that performed the post mortem
exams. Plowden didn't even cross examine the
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prosecution's witnesses, called in none of
his own, did not challenge the prosecutor's
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recollection of events even though he told
two different versions, and did not question
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why there was no record written or
confirmed of the confession. He did nothing
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to defend George Stenney Junior. The
entire proceeding lasted only two and a half
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hours. In less than ten minutes, the jury, which consisted of twelve
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white men, returned from deliberation with
a verdict of guilty for the fourteen year
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old boy. Judge Philip Stole sentenced
Stenny to death by electrocution. The crowd
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both in and around the courthouse seemed
pretty pleased with the finding. There were
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over one thousand white men and women
that showed up for the trial, even
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though the defendant was black. They
did not allow black men or women in
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the court house. From the time
Stenny was arrested. His parents were not
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allowed to see him until after the
trial. He sat in the interrogation rooms
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alone, no parents and no counsel. He sat in jail awaiting the trial
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alone. His parents had not been
allowed to visit or communicate with him at
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all. Stenny's father was fired from
his job, and since they lived in
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a company owned house, they had
to immediately move. They relocated closer to
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grandparents while they figured out what to
do. They tried to find someone to
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help them appeal the ruling. Local
churches and the NAACP appealed to Governor Olan
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Johnson to consider clemency considering the age
of the boy. Ironically, most of
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the letters he received were from white
women that didn't want to see someone so
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young executed. The governor visited Stenny
to two days before his execution. The
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governor said that he wanted those begging
for clemency to know that Stenny killed the
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smaller girl so that he could rape
the bigger one, but then he killed
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the bigger one before raping her dead
body. He even returned later with the
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intention of raping her again, but
found the body was already too cold.
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He claimed Stenny admitted all of it. Of course, it was reported that
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all of those were rumors that the
governor heard, and that it never came
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from Stenny directly. Steney told other
inmates that he was coerced and maintained his
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innocence. On June sixteenth, nineteen
forty four, at seven thirty a m.
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He was prepared for execution. His
arms and legs and body were restrained
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to the chair. He was too
short, so they placed a thick bible
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under him. When asked if he
had any last words, he said no,
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sir. Then they placed the leather
strap in his mouth, and he
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burst into tears. They placed him
that seemed way too large on his head,
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and his sobs could be heard around
the room. With the first flick
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of electricity, the mask shook off
of his head, revealing the tear stained
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face of the young boy. It
took three flips of the switch before he
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was pronounced dead. There was a
witness from one of the victim's families and
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said that the event was not nearly
so dramatic. He denied that they placed
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a bible under him or that the
mask fell off as soon as the electricity
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was turned on. Exact records of
the event cannot be found, so we
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can only go on what is recounted
from those that were there. So why
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eighty years later is this case still
being debated In case you haven't been able
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to tell so far in the story, very little has been actually agreed upon
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what occurred in nineteen forty four.
In two thousand and four, George Friarson,
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a historian that grew up in al
Kalou, started researching the case.
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It wasn't long before several pro bono
lawyers got involved, and then they got
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more people to volunteer. They went
through historical documents, found witnesses, and
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located evidence that they believe could exonerate
Stenny. Although there was no transcript of
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the actual trial, a motion for
a new trial was filed in twenty thirteen.
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In twenty fourteen, the Civil Rights
and Restorative Justice Project at Northeastern University
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filed an amicus brief with the court
stating that the case was based exclusively on
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a confession that was not recorded or
written, and taken without the consent of
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parents or presence of counsel. Rather
than approving a new trial, the judge
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vacated the conviction. The overturning of
the conviction did not mean that Stenny was
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innocent, but that he did not
receive a fair trial and should not have
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been executed so quickly. The new
ruling also caused a flood of responses.
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The Stenny family was thrilled. They
always claimed that Stenny was innocent, that
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he was with the siblings when the
murders occurred and he could not have done
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it. The Bickner and Thames families
were disappointed. While they understood that he
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may not have received a fair trial, they felt as though he was being
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painted as a poor black boy that
was unfairly charged with a crime, but
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in reality was undoubtedly guilty. The
different opinions continued to be vocalized. There
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was an interview from Stinney's seventh grade
teacher that was published in nineteen ninety five.
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They claimed he had threatened a girl
at school the day the crime took
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place. Amy Stenny's sister contacted him
and claimed that he told her it was
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not true, but he was paid
to say that the teacher died shortly after,
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so neither side of the story could
be confirmed. The reverend that found
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the bodies said that there was very
little blood in the ditch, considering how
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badly the girls had been beaten.
If they had been killed there, it
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seemed as though there would be a
lot more blood if they had been killed
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somewhere else and then moved there.
It didn't seem possible that such a small
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child could have picked them both up
and carried them. There was a theory
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that the girls may have been killed
by George Burke Junior. Stinny's mom worked
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for their family for a short time. They were a wealthy white family.
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She was uncomfortable with the advances of
the father. When she told her husband
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about it, he told her not
to return to work for that family.
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Missus Burke was angry over the whole
event, maybe a little embarrassed, and
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the theory is that the boys hurt
the girls and pinned it on George Stenney
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Junior to get even. Added to
that, George Burke Senior owned the property
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where the girls were found and served
as the foreman on the grand jury in
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Stinney's case. Supposedly a member of
the family made a deathbed confession about the
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event, but once again there are
no records and no one to confirm it.
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Now, Alcalou, South Carolina,
seems like a forgotten town with a
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population of around four hundred people.
Weeds have reclaimed, old buildings, and
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vacant stores line the streets, yet
the memory of what happened is far from
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fading. Three memorial crosses are placed
at the ditch where the girls were found,
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one for each young life lost after
a tragic event. Sometimes it's not
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the truth that decides the outcome of
a story. Sometimes the majority can be
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persuaded by which side is the most
convincing. As the old saying goes,
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believe nothing you hear and half of
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please. I like your podcast,
Nancy and North Kakilaki. And by the
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way she wrote North Kakilaki, I
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that what's bothering me right now?
Man? I try to stay pretty positive,
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so it's difficult to come up with
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stop saying that people rock, you
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outs still? We can mention something, but shout outs. I'd like for
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shout out the term shout out to
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a little bit every time someone says, let me give you a shout out.
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Now, it's different in different contexts. In different contexts which I'm not
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going to go into, like it's
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I don't want to be shouted out. I don't want to hear someone be
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it's irrational, but I was asked
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