Jan. 9, 2024
Kip Kinkel Hears Voices

15-year-old Kip Kinkel was trying to hide a terrible secret. He didn’t want anybody to know about the voices in his head, constantly urging him to commit violent acts.
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Discretion advice. This is ten minute
murder. On the twentieth of May nineteen
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ninety eight, fifteen year old kiplan
Kinkel, who was known as Kip,
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was caught with a gun and his
locker at school. One of his friends
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had recently stolen the thirty two caliber
pistol and sold it to Kip for one
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hundred ten dollars in cash. After
the pistol's owner learned that the weapon had
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been stolen, he immediately suspected the
culprit was one of his teenage son's friends.
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When he reported the theft to the
cops, he gave them a list
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of names of teenagers who he suspected
could be involved. Kip's name was not
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on the list, but when school
officials became aware of the incident, they
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suspected him anyway. While Kip was
being questioned, he made no effort to
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hide that he had purchased the stolen
weapon, saying, quote, look,
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I'm going to be square with you
guys. The gun is in my locker.
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Sure enough, the gun was found
in Kip's locker and it was loaded.
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Both Kip and the friend who had
stolen the gun were arrested and the
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school suspended Kip, intending on expelling
him after a hearing. After he was
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arrested and in custody, Kip's father
came to pick him up and spent the
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drive home, threatening to send his
son to military school. Later, Kip
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would claim that he hadn't heard a
word his father said because the voices in
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his head were too loud. After
arriving home, Kip went up to his
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bedroom and grabbed his own gun,
a semi automatic rifle that his dad had
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given him. From an early age, Kip had been fascinated by guns and
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explosive devices, even creating homemade bombs
as the young teenager. His parents had
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initially been concerned, but while his
mother continued disapproving of Kip's interest in weapons,
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his father eventually decided that guns could
be a good way for him to
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bond with his son. He ended
up giving Kip several firearms, including a
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rifle that his own father had once
given him, and then making Kip attend
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gun safety classes. Once Kip had
his rifle, he snuck into his parents'
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room where the ammunition was kept.
Then he walked into the kitchen and shot
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his dad in the head. His
mother was still out of the house,
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so Kip moved his father's body into
the bathroom, laying a bed sheet over
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him. Three and a half hours
later, his mom got home. He
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walked into the garage to greet her, telling her I love you, before
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or shooting her six times in the
head, face, and chest, just
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like he had done after shooting his
father. He placed a sheet over her
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body. The next morning, Kip
listened to one opera recording over and over
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again, setting his CD player to
repeat the track. He wrote a note
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explaining the murders of his parents,
saying, quote, I just got two
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felonies on my record. My parents
can't take that. It would destroy them.
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The embarrassment would be too much for
them. They couldn't live with themselves.
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But right after claiming he'd killed his
parents to save them from embarrassment,
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he wrote about the voices inside of
his head, claiming that he had to
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kill people. He didn't know why, and he didn't have another choice.
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After leaving the note on the coffee
table, Kip drove to the school in
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his mother's car. He was dressed
in a trench coat which held a total
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of three firearms, two knives,
and more than a thousand rounds of ammunition.
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He parked a couple blocks away and
then ran onto the school's campus,
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where he immediately opened fire with his
rifle, wounding two students before walking to
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the cafeteria. One of the victims
survived the injuries, but the other,
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sixteen year old Ben Walker, later
died in the hospital. Inside the cafeteria,
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Kip fired forty eight more times,
wounding twenty five students. One student,
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seventeen year old named Michael Nicholson,
died from his wounds shortly after.
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With his rifle now empty, Kip
had to pause his attack to reload.
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One of the students who had just
been shot, Jacob Riker, saw an
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opportunity to overpower Kip and tackled him. While he was distracted, Kip managed
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to draw another gun and shoot Jacob
another time, but along with several others,
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Jacob managed to hold Kip down while
he was being restrained by a small
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crowd of high schoolers. Kip repeatedly
yelled just kill me instead. The group
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held Kip in place until the police
arrived. Shortly after being placed in police
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custody, Kip managed to grab onto
one of his hunting knives and attempted to
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stab one of the officers, hoping
that he could commit suicide by cop.
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Later, he claimed that he wanted
to end his own life shortly after murdering
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his parents, but he had lost
his nerve and had not followed through.
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Instead of giving in to Kip's request
to be shot, the officer used pepper
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spray on him. Kip's attempt at
his own life continued in jail, where
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jury selection in his trial, Kip
decided to plead guilty to both murder and
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attempted murder, and in late nineteen
ninety nine he received a sentence of more
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than one hundred years without parole.
He spoke briefly at his sentencing, apologizing
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for both killing his parents and shooting
up the school. Almost a decade later,
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he appeared to change his mind about
his guilty plea, claiming that his
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case should have been taken to trial
and his attorneys should have used an insanity
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defense due to his history of poor
mental health. There is plenty of documented
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evidence that Kip had suffered from mental
illness since he was a young boy.
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He'd even been referred to a psychologist
the year before the shootings and had been
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diagnosed with depression. Only eight weeks
later. His parents and the psychologist agreed
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that Kip had improved enough that he
could stop receiving treatment, and when his
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prozac prescription ran out, it was
never refilled. Because of his history of
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mental illness. Kip requested a second
trial, supported by two psychiatrists who testified
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that he'd been showing signs of schizophrenia
at the time the crimes were committed.
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He had suffered from paranoid delusions for
several years, beginning when he was around
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twelve years old. The delusions included
an unwavering belief that the West Coast was
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about to be invaded by the Chinese
and that the United States government had placed
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a computer chip into his brain without
his consent. Because of these delusions,
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he reported living a life in constant
state of high alert. He also reported
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hearing three different voices in his head, which he labeled as Voice A,
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B, and C. Voice B
was the voice who constantly insulted Kip and
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told him that his life wasn't worth
living, whereas Voice A was the one
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who commanded him to carry out violent
acts, such as fatally shooting his parents.
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Despite the impact that his delusions had
on his quality of life, Kip
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didn't tell anybody about the voices until
he was already in prison. He explained
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this as being due to a deep
fear of being labeled as quote retarded or
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abnormal, or even being sent to
an asylum. He tried to drown out
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the voices by carrying out intense physical
activity or playing music as loud as he
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could, but it never really worked. Despite the psychiatrist's testimony, the judge
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denied Kip's request for another trial.
Kip appealed the decision in both state and
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federal courts, but as of the
time of this recording in twenty twenty four,
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he has not gone back to trial. In prison, Kip was officially
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diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and began receiving
treatment for the condition. He started taking
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college classes, became a yoga instructor, and later began to work as an
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electrician. In twenty twenty, Kit
agreed to speak to a reporter for the
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American news site huff Post, taking
part in around twenty hours of interviews.
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He described how after his antipsychotic medication
began to take effect, he realized that
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so many of his core beliefs,
such as having a chip implanted in his
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brain, were delusions. Without the
constant paranoia taking over his life, he
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was left to try to come to
terms with what he had done. Quote,
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I did these things, I heard
these people. I killed my own
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parents. Who I absolutely loved and
who loved me and were good people.
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I shot and wounded completely innocent people
that didn't deserve anything bad to happen to
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them at all. I killed two
boys who were completely innocent, and I
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Discretion advice. This is ten minute
murder. On the twentieth of May nineteen
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ninety eight, fifteen year old kiplan
Kinkel, who was known as Kip,
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was caught with a gun and his
locker at school. One of his friends
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had recently stolen the thirty two caliber
pistol and sold it to Kip for one
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hundred ten dollars in cash. After
the pistol's owner learned that the weapon had
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been stolen, he immediately suspected the
culprit was one of his teenage son's friends.
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When he reported the theft to the
cops, he gave them a list
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of names of teenagers who he suspected
could be involved. Kip's name was not
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on the list, but when school
officials became aware of the incident, they
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suspected him anyway. While Kip was
being questioned, he made no effort to
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hide that he had purchased the stolen
weapon, saying, quote, look,
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I'm going to be square with you
guys. The gun is in my locker.
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Sure enough, the gun was found
in Kip's locker and it was loaded.
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Both Kip and the friend who had
stolen the gun were arrested and the
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school suspended Kip, intending on expelling
him after a hearing. After he was
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arrested and in custody, Kip's father
came to pick him up and spent the
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drive home, threatening to send his
son to military school. Later, Kip
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would claim that he hadn't heard a
word his father said because the voices in
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his head were too loud. After
arriving home, Kip went up to his
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bedroom and grabbed his own gun,
a semi automatic rifle that his dad had
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given him. From an early age, Kip had been fascinated by guns and
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explosive devices, even creating homemade bombs
as the young teenager. His parents had
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initially been concerned, but while his
mother continued disapproving of Kip's interest in weapons,
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his father eventually decided that guns could
be a good way for him to
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bond with his son. He ended
up giving Kip several firearms, including a
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rifle that his own father had once
given him, and then making Kip attend
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gun safety classes. Once Kip had
his rifle, he snuck into his parents'
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room where the ammunition was kept.
Then he walked into the kitchen and shot
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his dad in the head. His
mother was still out of the house,
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so Kip moved his father's body into
the bathroom, laying a bed sheet over
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him. Three and a half hours
later, his mom got home. He
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walked into the garage to greet her, telling her I love you, before
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or shooting her six times in the
head, face, and chest, just
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like he had done after shooting his
father. He placed a sheet over her
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body. The next morning, Kip
listened to one opera recording over and over
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again, setting his CD player to
repeat the track. He wrote a note
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explaining the murders of his parents,
saying, quote, I just got two
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felonies on my record. My parents
can't take that. It would destroy them.
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The embarrassment would be too much for
them. They couldn't live with themselves.
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But right after claiming he'd killed his
parents to save them from embarrassment,
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he wrote about the voices inside of
his head, claiming that he had to
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kill people. He didn't know why, and he didn't have another choice.
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After leaving the note on the coffee
table, Kip drove to the school in
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his mother's car. He was dressed
in a trench coat which held a total
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of three firearms, two knives,
and more than a thousand rounds of ammunition.
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He parked a couple blocks away and
then ran onto the school's campus,
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where he immediately opened fire with his
rifle, wounding two students before walking to
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the cafeteria. One of the victims
survived the injuries, but the other,
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sixteen year old Ben Walker, later
died in the hospital. Inside the cafeteria,
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Kip fired forty eight more times,
wounding twenty five students. One student,
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seventeen year old named Michael Nicholson,
died from his wounds shortly after.
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With his rifle now empty, Kip
had to pause his attack to reload.
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One of the students who had just
been shot, Jacob Riker, saw an
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opportunity to overpower Kip and tackled him. While he was distracted, Kip managed
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to draw another gun and shoot Jacob
another time, but along with several others,
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Jacob managed to hold Kip down while
he was being restrained by a small
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crowd of high schoolers. Kip repeatedly
yelled just kill me instead. The group
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held Kip in place until the police
arrived. Shortly after being placed in police
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custody, Kip managed to grab onto
one of his hunting knives and attempted to
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stab one of the officers, hoping
that he could commit suicide by cop.
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Later, he claimed that he wanted
to end his own life shortly after murdering
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his parents, but he had lost
his nerve and had not followed through.
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Instead of giving in to Kip's request
to be shot, the officer used pepper
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spray on him. Kip's attempt at
his own life continued in jail, where
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he tried to starve himself to death. How well do you focus when you
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it no longer exists. I used
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drinker soda, anything to give me
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jury selection in his trial, Kip
decided to plead guilty to both murder and
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attempted murder, and in late nineteen
ninety nine he received a sentence of more
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than one hundred years without parole.
He spoke briefly at his sentencing, apologizing
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for both killing his parents and shooting
up the school. Almost a decade later,
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he appeared to change his mind about
his guilty plea, claiming that his
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case should have been taken to trial
and his attorneys should have used an insanity
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defense due to his history of poor
mental health. There is plenty of documented
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evidence that Kip had suffered from mental
illness since he was a young boy.
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He'd even been referred to a psychologist
the year before the shootings and had been
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diagnosed with depression. Only eight weeks
later. His parents and the psychologist agreed
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that Kip had improved enough that he
could stop receiving treatment, and when his
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prozac prescription ran out, it was
never refilled. Because of his history of
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mental illness. Kip requested a second
trial, supported by two psychiatrists who testified
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that he'd been showing signs of schizophrenia
at the time the crimes were committed.
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He had suffered from paranoid delusions for
several years, beginning when he was around
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twelve years old. The delusions included
an unwavering belief that the West Coast was
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about to be invaded by the Chinese
and that the United States government had placed
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a computer chip into his brain without
his consent. Because of these delusions,
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he reported living a life in constant
state of high alert. He also reported
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hearing three different voices in his head, which he labeled as Voice A,
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B, and C. Voice B
was the voice who constantly insulted Kip and
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told him that his life wasn't worth
living, whereas Voice A was the one
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who commanded him to carry out violent
acts, such as fatally shooting his parents.
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Despite the impact that his delusions had
on his quality of life, Kip
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didn't tell anybody about the voices until
he was already in prison. He explained
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this as being due to a deep
fear of being labeled as quote retarded or
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abnormal, or even being sent to
an asylum. He tried to drown out
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the voices by carrying out intense physical
activity or playing music as loud as he
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could, but it never really worked. Despite the psychiatrist's testimony, the judge
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denied Kip's request for another trial.
Kip appealed the decision in both state and
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federal courts, but as of the
time of this recording in twenty twenty four,
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he has not gone back to trial. In prison, Kip was officially
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diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and began receiving
treatment for the condition. He started taking
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college classes, became a yoga instructor, and later began to work as an
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electrician. In twenty twenty, Kit
agreed to speak to a reporter for the
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American news site huff Post, taking
part in around twenty hours of interviews.
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He described how after his antipsychotic medication
began to take effect, he realized that
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so many of his core beliefs,
such as having a chip implanted in his
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brain, were delusions. Without the
constant paranoia taking over his life, he
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was left to try to come to
terms with what he had done. Quote,
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I did these things, I heard
these people. I killed my own
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parents. Who I absolutely loved and
who loved me and were good people.
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I shot and wounded completely innocent people
that didn't deserve anything bad to happen to
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them at all. I killed two
boys who were completely innocent, and I
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had to understand why I did this. That's ten Minute Murder for today,
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