Dec. 28, 2023
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From a very young age, Wesley Shermantine Jr. and Loren Herzog were best friends. As they grew older, their friendship took the darkest of turns.
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Discretion, is it by ten needed
murder? Wesley Howard Shermantine Junior and Lauren
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Joseph Herzog lived at a small town
neighborhood where there weren't many other kids to
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play with. The two boys lived
on the same street in Lynden, California,
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and quickly became inseparable. Even when
Lauren and Wesley, who was known
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as Wes, grew older, they
didn't see any point in making new friends.
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Instead, they stuck with just each
other through their teenage years. Even
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if Lauren and Wes had decided to
branch out and make new friends, they
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wouldn't have had much luck. Their
favorite hobbies weren't exactly friendly. They found
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a lot of joy in bullying other
students at their high school and usually spent
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their spare time getting drunk or high. When they graduated high school in nineteen
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eighty four, they moved from Lynden
to Stockton, California, got an apartment
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together, and were free to abuse
methanphetamine as much as they wanted to.
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At the time, Linden had a
population of less than two thousand people.
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Everybody knew everyone else's business, and
the rest of Linden's permanent residents were well
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aware of Lauren and Wes's reputation as
heavy drinkers and meth users. It didn't
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matter what else was going on in
their lives, even when they were in
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a romantic relationship with women, or
when Wes was married and had several children,
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their first priorities were always drugs and
each other. Despite now living in
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Stockton, they often went to the
Linden Inn bar to drink and to talk
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to Kim Vanderhyden, the daughter of
the bar's owner, with whom Lauren had
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a brief romantic fling. In nineteen
ninety eight, Kim Vanderhyden's sister, Cindy
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was seen walking out of the Linden
Inn with Lauren and Wes. After that,
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she was never seen again. For
investigators, it was like they'd been
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handed two suspects on a silver platter. Lauren and Wes had an incredibly unsavory
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reputation, and multiple witnesses placed them
leaving the bar with Cindy before her disappearance.
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When no signs of Cindy turned up, the investigation continued into early nineteen
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ninety nine, when Wes's car was
repossessed the San Joaquin Sheriff's department were able
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to search the vehicle and found human
blood inside. While the blood was being
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tested to confirm that it belonged to
Cindy, the Sheriff's investigation zeroed in on
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Lauren, who was believed to be
Wes's accomplice. During extensive questioning, Lauren
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eventually folded and started revealing Wes's criminal
activities. However, he didn't just provide
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details about Cindy's disappearance. Instead,
he began incriminating Wes and other crimes that
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they had never been connected to.
He told investigators that in nineteen ninety four,
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he and Wes had been vacationing in
Utah when Wes shot and killed a
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man that was out hunting. The
San Joaquin Sheriff's Department reached out to the
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Utah Police and asked if they had
any cases that might match the details that
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had been revealed. As it turned
out they did. A hunter had been
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shot to death in nineteen ninety four, and his murder remained unsolved. The
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Utah hunter wasn't the only murder that
Lauren started talking about. In September nineteen
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eighty four, forty one year old
Henry Howell had been found dead in his
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park car, The case had gone
cold, and Henry's murder had been unsolved
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for more than a decade. According
to Lauren, Wes was the killer.
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They had driven past Henry while he
was parked off the side of Highway eighty
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eight, and Wes pulled over the
car, shot Henry dead with his own
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gun and robbed him. Almost exactly
a year after Henry Howell's murder, the
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naked body of twenty four year old
Robin Armtrout was found on a creek bank
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close to Lyndon. Lauren confessed that
Wes had killed Robin two but Lauren,
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maybe not realizing, had not just
incriminated Wes in these crimes by admitting that
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he had been there at every murder
and had done nothing to stop it,
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he also incriminated himself. In March
of nineteen ninety nine, both Lauren and
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Wes were arrested. Each man faced
multiple murder charges. Both of their trials
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took place in two thousand and one, and despite being friends for decades,
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both men relied on one strategy in
court, blaming absolutely everything on the other
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one and maintaining their own innocence.
Lauren was found guilty of three out of
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the five murder counts against him,
and was sentenced to seventy eight years in
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prison. Meanwhile, Wes was found
guilty for f four murders, including the
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killing of sixteen year old Chevy Wheeler, who had disappeared after telling her friends
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that she was going to hang out
with Wes at his cabin. The witness
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testimonies at Wes's trial were brutal.
Five different victims told the jury about how
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they had been violently sexually assaulted by
him, including his own sister. One
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of the victims told the jury that
Wes had rear ended her car and then
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held a knife to her throat in
an attempt to kidnap her. He managed
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to get her inside his vehicle,
and she only escaped by jumping out of
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a moving car and then running for
her life. Wes's ex wife shared stories
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of the times that she had been
violently abused by him, even when she
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was carrying their children. From the
physical evidence against Wes and testimony after testimony
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proving his character, there was no
doubt in the jury's mind that he could
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never be released. While Lauren escaped
with a lengthy jail sentence, Wes was
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sentenced to death. In two thousand
and four, all of Lauren's convictions were
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overturned after the appeals court ruled that
all but one of his confessions had been
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coerced. The only confession that the
court believed was legitimate was for the murder
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of Cindy Vanderhyden, but a retrial
never occurred. In exchange for a guilty
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plea for accessory to murder and voluntary
manslaughter, Lauren's sentence was reduced and he
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only served eleven years in prison.
Meanwhile, on death row, Wes was
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strategically revealing more information about his crimes. He sent his sister several letters telling
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her that more bodies could be found
in an old well near their hometown.
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The sheriff's department investigated the well,
but they initially saw no need to investigate.
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The property owner told them that the
wells had been sealed for years,
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long before any of Wes's and Lauren's
victims went missing. After Lauren was briefly
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paroled, a local bounty hunter reached
out to him, telling him that Wes
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was going to lead the authorities to
several locations where more victims had been buried.
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Knowing that he would be back in
prison when more bodies were located.
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Lauren took his own life in two
thousand twelve. After finding out about Lauren's
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death, Wes sent a letter to
the media which heavily implied that Lauren might
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have been the person who kidnapped nine
year old Michaela Garrit. In November of
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nineteen eighty eight, Katrina Rodriguez,
who had witnessed the kidnapping, stated quote,
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I thought then and I think now, Lauren Herzog could be the kidnapper.
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I think there are features that look
very much like the man. It
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seems like a strong lead. However, none of the remains linked to lorn
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and Wess's crimes matched Michaela's DNA,
and in two thousand twenty a different man
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was arrested for Michaela's kidnapping and murder. That same year, investigators circled back
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to the abandoned well that Wes had
pointed them to. This time they did
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search the well, finding more than
a thousand fragments of human bone, which
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belonged to three different people and one
fetus. Two of the victims were identified
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as sixteen year old Joanne Hobson and
nineteen year old Kimberly Anne Billy, who
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had been missing for more than thirty
years. The remaining person and the fetus
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were never identified. With the help
of a letter that Wes wrote to the
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bounty hunter, two more bodies were
found, Cindy vander Heyden and another unknown
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victim. In twenty thirteen, the
FBI announced that they would no longer be
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using Wes's information to guide their search. They believed that Wes had been deliberately
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misleading them, and two potential burial
sites that had been indicated showed no signs
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that human remains had ever been disposed
of there. Despite Lauren and Wes's only
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being convicted of four murders, the
two men are widely believed to have at
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least nineteen victims, possibly even more. In a statement that Wes sent to
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a new station in Sacramento, he
claimed that the duo may have killed more
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than seventy people. For most of
their adult lives, Wes and Lauren appeared
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to have terrorized, assault, and
killed people for one main reason, they
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thought it was fun. Together,
they went out on what they called hunting
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trips to find more victims than disposing
of the bodies by dumping them on remote
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hillsides, burying them underneath trailer parks
and dropping them down mine shafts. While
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sexually assaulting one of his victims,
Wess held her ear against the ground of
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a trailer park she lived in while
telling her listen to the heartbeats of the
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people I've buried here. Listen to
the heartbeats of the families I've buried here.
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email for today, Hi Joe Megan from
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Ritzville, Washington Here, just curious
as to what your favorite scary movie is.
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I'm not sure if you have been
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I would ask. Also, has
anyone ever told you that you kind of
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look like Dexter. First of all, I don't think I necessarily have a
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favorite, but I can tell you
that Poltergeist is the reason that I'm not
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fond of clowns to this day.
I think I want much, much too
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young of an age, and it
did something to me. The ring.
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I'm laughing, but it's also traumatizing. The Ring is very good. I
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like that, but it's hard to
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have a favorite, it might be
Silence of the Lambs. And yes,
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people have told me that I looked
like Dexter. I love Dexter and that's
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my favorite TV show, so I
can't be mad about it. I mean,
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but people are telling me I look
like a serial killer, a fictitional
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serial killer, so I guess that
makes it okay. But speaking of I
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am currently reading with my ears audiobook
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It's the series, the book series
that the TV show was based on,
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and it's extremely good. I don't
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Discretion, is it by ten needed
murder? Wesley Howard Shermantine Junior and Lauren
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Joseph Herzog lived at a small town
neighborhood where there weren't many other kids to
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00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:41.920
play with. The two boys lived
on the same street in Lynden, California,
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and quickly became inseparable. Even when
Lauren and Wesley, who was known
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as Wes, grew older, they
didn't see any point in making new friends.
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Instead, they stuck with just each
other through their teenage years. Even
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if Lauren and Wes had decided to
branch out and make new friends, they
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wouldn't have had much luck. Their
favorite hobbies weren't exactly friendly. They found
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a lot of joy in bullying other
students at their high school and usually spent
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their spare time getting drunk or high. When they graduated high school in nineteen
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eighty four, they moved from Lynden
to Stockton, California, got an apartment
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together, and were free to abuse
methanphetamine as much as they wanted to.
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At the time, Linden had a
population of less than two thousand people.
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Everybody knew everyone else's business, and
the rest of Linden's permanent residents were well
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aware of Lauren and Wes's reputation as
heavy drinkers and meth users. It didn't
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matter what else was going on in
their lives, even when they were in
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a romantic relationship with women, or
when Wes was married and had several children,
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their first priorities were always drugs and
each other. Despite now living in
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Stockton, they often went to the
Linden Inn bar to drink and to talk
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to Kim Vanderhyden, the daughter of
the bar's owner, with whom Lauren had
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a brief romantic fling. In nineteen
ninety eight, Kim Vanderhyden's sister, Cindy
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was seen walking out of the Linden
Inn with Lauren and Wes. After that,
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she was never seen again. For
investigators, it was like they'd been
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handed two suspects on a silver platter. Lauren and Wes had an incredibly unsavory
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00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:27.680
reputation, and multiple witnesses placed them
leaving the bar with Cindy before her disappearance.
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When no signs of Cindy turned up, the investigation continued into early nineteen
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ninety nine, when Wes's car was
repossessed the San Joaquin Sheriff's department were able
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to search the vehicle and found human
blood inside. While the blood was being
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tested to confirm that it belonged to
Cindy, the Sheriff's investigation zeroed in on
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Lauren, who was believed to be
Wes's accomplice. During extensive questioning, Lauren
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eventually folded and started revealing Wes's criminal
activities. However, he didn't just provide
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details about Cindy's disappearance. Instead,
he began incriminating Wes and other crimes that
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they had never been connected to.
He told investigators that in nineteen ninety four,
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he and Wes had been vacationing in
Utah when Wes shot and killed a
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man that was out hunting. The
San Joaquin Sheriff's Department reached out to the
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Utah Police and asked if they had
any cases that might match the details that
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had been revealed. As it turned
out they did. A hunter had been
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shot to death in nineteen ninety four, and his murder remained unsolved. The
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Utah hunter wasn't the only murder that
Lauren started talking about. In September nineteen
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eighty four, forty one year old
Henry Howell had been found dead in his
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park car, The case had gone
cold, and Henry's murder had been unsolved
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for more than a decade. According
to Lauren, Wes was the killer.
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They had driven past Henry while he
was parked off the side of Highway eighty
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eight, and Wes pulled over the
car, shot Henry dead with his own
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gun and robbed him. Almost exactly
a year after Henry Howell's murder, the
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naked body of twenty four year old
Robin Armtrout was found on a creek bank
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close to Lyndon. Lauren confessed that
Wes had killed Robin two but Lauren,
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maybe not realizing, had not just
incriminated Wes in these crimes by admitting that
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he had been there at every murder
and had done nothing to stop it,
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he also incriminated himself. In March
of nineteen ninety nine, both Lauren and
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Wes were arrested. Each man faced
multiple murder charges. Both of their trials
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took place in two thousand and one, and despite being friends for decades,
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both men relied on one strategy in
court, blaming absolutely everything on the other
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one and maintaining their own innocence.
Lauren was found guilty of three out of
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the five murder counts against him,
and was sentenced to seventy eight years in
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prison. Meanwhile, Wes was found
guilty for f four murders, including the
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killing of sixteen year old Chevy Wheeler, who had disappeared after telling her friends
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that she was going to hang out
with Wes at his cabin. The witness
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testimonies at Wes's trial were brutal.
Five different victims told the jury about how
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they had been violently sexually assaulted by
him, including his own sister. One
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of the victims told the jury that
Wes had rear ended her car and then
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held a knife to her throat in
an attempt to kidnap her. He managed
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to get her inside his vehicle,
and she only escaped by jumping out of
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a moving car and then running for
her life. Wes's ex wife shared stories
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of the times that she had been
violently abused by him, even when she
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was carrying their children. From the
physical evidence against Wes and testimony after testimony
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proving his character, there was no
doubt in the jury's mind that he could
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never be released. While Lauren escaped
with a lengthy jail sentence, Wes was
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sentenced to death. In two thousand
and four, all of Lauren's convictions were
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overturned after the appeals court ruled that
all but one of his confessions had been
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coerced. The only confession that the
court believed was legitimate was for the murder
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of Cindy Vanderhyden, but a retrial
never occurred. In exchange for a guilty
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plea for accessory to murder and voluntary
manslaughter, Lauren's sentence was reduced and he
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only served eleven years in prison.
Meanwhile, on death row, Wes was
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strategically revealing more information about his crimes. He sent his sister several letters telling
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her that more bodies could be found
in an old well near their hometown.
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The sheriff's department investigated the well,
but they initially saw no need to investigate.
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The property owner told them that the
wells had been sealed for years,
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long before any of Wes's and Lauren's
victims went missing. After Lauren was briefly
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paroled, a local bounty hunter reached
out to him, telling him that Wes
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was going to lead the authorities to
several locations where more victims had been buried.
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Knowing that he would be back in
prison when more bodies were located.
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Lauren took his own life in two
thousand twelve. After finding out about Lauren's
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death, Wes sent a letter to
the media which heavily implied that Lauren might
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have been the person who kidnapped nine
year old Michaela Garrit. In November of
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nineteen eighty eight, Katrina Rodriguez,
who had witnessed the kidnapping, stated quote,
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I thought then and I think now, Lauren Herzog could be the kidnapper.
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I think there are features that look
very much like the man. It
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seems like a strong lead. However, none of the remains linked to lorn
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and Wess's crimes matched Michaela's DNA,
and in two thousand twenty a different man
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was arrested for Michaela's kidnapping and murder. That same year, investigators circled back
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to the abandoned well that Wes had
pointed them to. This time they did
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search the well, finding more than
a thousand fragments of human bone, which
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belonged to three different people and one
fetus. Two of the victims were identified
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as sixteen year old Joanne Hobson and
nineteen year old Kimberly Anne Billy, who
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had been missing for more than thirty
years. The remaining person and the fetus
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were never identified. With the help
of a letter that Wes wrote to the
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bounty hunter, two more bodies were
found, Cindy vander Heyden and another unknown
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victim. In twenty thirteen, the
FBI announced that they would no longer be
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using Wes's information to guide their search. They believed that Wes had been deliberately
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misleading them, and two potential burial
sites that had been indicated showed no signs
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that human remains had ever been disposed
of there. Despite Lauren and Wes's only
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being convicted of four murders, the
two men are widely believed to have at
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least nineteen victims, possibly even more. In a statement that Wes sent to
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a new station in Sacramento, he
claimed that the duo may have killed more
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than seventy people. For most of
their adult lives, Wes and Lauren appeared
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to have terrorized, assault, and
killed people for one main reason, they
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thought it was fun. Together,
they went out on what they called hunting
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trips to find more victims than disposing
of the bodies by dumping them on remote
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hillsides, burying them underneath trailer parks
and dropping them down mine shafts. While
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sexually assaulting one of his victims,
Wess held her ear against the ground of
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a trailer park she lived in while
telling her listen to the heartbeats of the
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people I've buried here. Listen to
the heartbeats of the families I've buried here.
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email for today, Hi Joe Megan from
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Ritzville, Washington Here, just curious
as to what your favorite scary movie is.
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I'm not sure if you have been
asked this yet, but I thought
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I would ask. Also, has
anyone ever told you that you kind of
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look like Dexter. First of all, I don't think I necessarily have a
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favorite, but I can tell you
that Poltergeist is the reason that I'm not
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fond of clowns to this day.
I think I want much, much too
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young of an age, and it
did something to me. The ring.
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I'm laughing, but it's also traumatizing. The Ring is very good. I
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like that, but it's hard to
beat. If I had to say I
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have a favorite, it might be
Silence of the Lambs. And yes,
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people have told me that I looked
like Dexter. I love Dexter and that's
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my favorite TV show, so I
can't be mad about it. I mean,
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but people are telling me I look
like a serial killer, a fictitional
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serial killer, so I guess that
makes it okay. But speaking of I
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am currently reading with my ears audiobook
the first Dexter novel, Darkly Dreaming Dexter.
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It's the series, the book series
that the TV show was based on,
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and it's extremely good. I don't
know why I waited this long to
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read it. All right, that's
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