Feb. 15, 2024
The ABC Killer: Moses Sithole

A killer stalked the streets of 1990’s apartheid South Africa, targeting vulnerable women and leaving a trail of brutality behind him. Using a front and the promise of a potential job to lure his victims in, this twisted, sadistic murderer perpetuated...
A killer stalked the streets of 1990’s apartheid South Africa, targeting vulnerable women and leaving a trail of brutality behind him. Using a front and the promise of a potential job to lure his victims in, this twisted, sadistic murderer perpetuated the life of pain that seemed to follow him like a dark cloud.
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Discretion advised. This is ten minute
murder. In nineteen sixty four, Moses
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Sithole was born in Valores, a
town near Boxburg, Transfalt Providence and apartheid
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South Africa. His mother and father, Sophie and Simon Sitthole, had very
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little. With five children to feed, there was often not enough to go
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around. The sit Holes, like
many struggling South African families at the time,
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lived in poverty, a poverty that
only deepened when Simon Sitthole suddenly died.
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Moses was just five years old when
his father passed away, and the
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family was left with no income to
support themselves. Desperate and out of options,
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Sophie gathered her children together one day
and took them to a local police
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station, where she left them.
Moses and his siblings were then caught it
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off to an orphanage in Quasulu and
Detale, where life took another drastic turn.
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Moses and his siblings later claimed that
they'd been subjected to abuse while living
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in the South African child care services, and when Moses became a teenager,
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he just couldn't take it any more. He preferred risking a life on the
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streets rather than staying at the orphanage, and he took off one day,
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never to return. He reached out
to his older brother, Patrick, who
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was able to give Moses a place
to stay for a short while, but
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Patrick was also barely standing on his
own two feet and couldn't offer Moses very
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much. Moses turned to working in
the Johannesburg gold mines to support himself,
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which kept food in his belly and
a roof over his head, but it
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also gave him the opportunity to stretch
his wings a little bit. It was
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early in his teenage years that Moses'
interest in sex began. At first,
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he satiated his urges with his girlfriends, but he found that he couldn't keep
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one for very long. Maybe he
was just an ordinary teenager, or maybe
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the feeling of abandonment he felt after
being left at the police station by his
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mother had colored his opinion of women
and his ability to maintain long term relationships
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with them. In those crucial formative
years, a step in any direction can
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lead to almost anything, but one
day Moses would do something that would make
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it perfectly clear that he was no
ordinary teenager. In February nineteen eighty nine,
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Baissua Doris Swakamisa walked into her local
police station to report that she'd been
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attacked and raped. She was able
to give a detailed report of the incident
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and her attacker, and the police
were able to find and arrest him.
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The still teenaged Moses Sitthole was then
sent to court for sexual assault. All
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through his hearings, Moses claimed that
he was innocent, but the prosecution was
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able to provide enough evidence for Moses
to be found guilty of all charges.
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He was sent to jail, still
claiming that he was innocent, but otherwise
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a model inmate, and after only
seven years, he was released for good
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behavior. Moses later claimed that it
was his time behind bars that led to
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the escalation of his crimes and was
the cause for what happened next. On
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the surface, his punishment seemed to
have done its job rehabilitating the young man.
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Moses played the part of a reformed
model citizen. He got a job,
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and not just one that he had
to keep a roof over his head,
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but one that would help him change
the world around him for the better.
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Moses started running a charity called Youth
Against Human Abuse and their mission was
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to end child abuse. This was
a cause close to heart for Moses after
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his time in the orphanage, and
he seemed truly dedicated to making a difference
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for children who were going through the
same thing that he had gone through.
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Moses was warm and charismatic. He
drew people towards him and strengthened their beliefs
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in his cause. He would often
approach people on the street and bring them
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into the fold, offering protection,
a job, a way to change the
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world. But what Moses was really
doing was hunting for his next victims.
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Many of those people Moses approached were
women. He'd wave a job in their
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face and promised to get them an
interview, and for so many people trying
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to get by in such a difficult
period in South African history, a job
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was a hard, hard thing to
come by. Women would come in and
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Moses would get to know them a
little bit better. Maybe he'd offer them
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a job, or maybe he wouldn't. But for so many of those women,
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their fates had been unknowingly sealed as
soon as they'd walked into Moses's office.
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Moses' experience with the South African judicial
system and his time behind bars had
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taught him that victims could very easily
be turned into witnesses, and witnesses could
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get you into a lot of trouble. He said he targeted women who reminded
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him of Doris Wakemisa, the woman
whom he still alleged had falsely accused him
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of rape almost a decade before.
Other people, however, claimed that Moses
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targeted women who reminded him of his
mother. Whichever version is true, the
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fact is Moses would entice potential victims
with the promise of a job. The
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women would leave his office and go
about their daily lives, but Moses would
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be following. He'd then lure them
somewhere secluded field, attack them, sexually
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assault them, and then strangle them, most of the time with their own
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underwear. One of his victims,
a twenty five year old lady named Letta
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and the last name that I can't
pronounce, had her two year old son
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with her, and Moses was still
undeterred. For a man who was managing
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a charity aiming to end child abuse, Moses chose to show no compassion.
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He hit the child across the head
with a blunt object, injuring but not
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killing the toddler. While Moses was
dragging Letta away to assault and strangle her.
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The child was left at the mercy
of the Elements and would die a
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slow death of exposure. As if
his treatment of these women and in the
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child's case wasn't enough, Moses would
often phone his victims surviving families and taunt
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them. He usually gathered this kind
of contact information from his initial interviews with
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the women, or he would at
least get enough information from them that he
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could find their relatives all on his
own afterwards. With Moses's reign of terror,
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the nation was thrown into panic.
Its women were targeted by a killer
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known only as the ABC Killer,
who seemed to attack at random and at
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will. In an attempt to end
the long string of assaults and murders,
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Nelson Mandela made a public appeal for
anyone with any information to come forward,
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but it was like trying to catch
smoke with your bare hands. It was
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in August nineteen ninety five, around
thirty victims in and only two years after
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Moses's release for good behavior, that
a witness spotted Moses with his latest victim.
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He'd almost been caught once before,
when another witness had seen Moses acting
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unusually around another woman who later turned
up dead, but that witness hadn't been
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able to get a clear view of
Moses's face. This time, however,
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a witness clearly identified Moses as being
the last person one of the victims had
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been seen alive. With investigators inched
closer to finding the elusive ABC killer,
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named so because his crimes ranged from
Aderidgeville, Bocksburg, and Cleveland, they
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uncovered Moses's previous conviction for rape and
the investigation tightened around him, but Moses
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managed to escape before the police could
arrest him. By then, he'd already
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set up a house with another woman, had a daughter, and separated with
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the mother, choosing instead to become
homeless and then go on the run in
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order to continue his crime spree.
Strangely, Moses then contacted a journalist named
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Tamson de Beer and made a startling
confession. He claimed to be the ABC
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Killer and said that he'd actually killed
around seventy six women, not the thirty
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that he was wanted for. He
said he'd done all of this as revenge
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for his false imprisonment and to prove
that he was willing to tell the truth.
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Moses gave Tamson directions to one of
his victim's bodies that had yet to
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be say died. Tamson found the
remains and the police found Moses in Johannesburg.
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Instead of coming quietly, Moses violently
attacked the police with a hatchet,
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injuring one of them. Moses was
shot, but survived and was taken to
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a hospital, where it was discovered
that Moses was both HIV positive and had
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TB again, even after he'd already
confessed to Tamson to beer. Moses claimed
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that he was innocent, but the
combination of witness testimonies like those from Tamson
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and the other witnesses who'd sponted him
with victims helped put Moses behind bars yet
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again, only this time for good. Moses was charged with thirty eight murders,
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forty rapes, and six robberies,
all of which he was found guilty,
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and he received consecutive sentences for all
of them, giving him a grand
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total of two thy four hundred ten
years. He's hoping that history will repeat
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itself again and he'll get out on
good behavior. A judge ruled that he'd
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have to serve at least nine hundred
and thirty years of his sentence before he'd
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be eligible for parole, meaning he'd
have to live to the right bold age
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of nine hundred and sixty three before
he could walk the streets again. That's
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Discretion advised. This is ten minute
murder. In nineteen sixty four, Moses
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00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:50.479
Sithole was born in Valores, a
town near Boxburg, Transfalt Providence and apartheid
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00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:55.520
South Africa. His mother and father, Sophie and Simon Sitthole, had very
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00:00:55.560 --> 00:00:59.119
little. With five children to feed, there was often not enough to go
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00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:03.880
around. The sit Holes, like
many struggling South African families at the time,
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00:01:03.239 --> 00:01:08.840
lived in poverty, a poverty that
only deepened when Simon Sitthole suddenly died.
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Moses was just five years old when
his father passed away, and the
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00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:19.400
family was left with no income to
support themselves. Desperate and out of options,
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Sophie gathered her children together one day
and took them to a local police
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00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:29.840
station, where she left them.
Moses and his siblings were then caught it
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00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:34.519
off to an orphanage in Quasulu and
Detale, where life took another drastic turn.
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00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:38.840
Moses and his siblings later claimed that
they'd been subjected to abuse while living
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00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:44.000
in the South African child care services, and when Moses became a teenager,
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00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:48.200
he just couldn't take it any more. He preferred risking a life on the
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00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:52.200
streets rather than staying at the orphanage, and he took off one day,
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00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:56.480
never to return. He reached out
to his older brother, Patrick, who
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00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:00.239
was able to give Moses a place
to stay for a short while, but
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00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:05.400
Patrick was also barely standing on his
own two feet and couldn't offer Moses very
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00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:09.960
much. Moses turned to working in
the Johannesburg gold mines to support himself,
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00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:14.240
which kept food in his belly and
a roof over his head, but it
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00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:17.840
also gave him the opportunity to stretch
his wings a little bit. It was
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00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:23.520
early in his teenage years that Moses'
interest in sex began. At first,
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00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:29.639
he satiated his urges with his girlfriends, but he found that he couldn't keep
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00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:34.879
one for very long. Maybe he
was just an ordinary teenager, or maybe
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00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:38.719
the feeling of abandonment he felt after
being left at the police station by his
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00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:44.599
mother had colored his opinion of women
and his ability to maintain long term relationships
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00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:49.319
with them. In those crucial formative
years, a step in any direction can
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00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:53.080
lead to almost anything, but one
day Moses would do something that would make
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00:02:53.159 --> 00:03:00.000
it perfectly clear that he was no
ordinary teenager. In February nineteen eighty nine,
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00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:06.759
Baissua Doris Swakamisa walked into her local
police station to report that she'd been
31
00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:09.960
attacked and raped. She was able
to give a detailed report of the incident
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00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:14.879
and her attacker, and the police
were able to find and arrest him.
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00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:21.400
The still teenaged Moses Sitthole was then
sent to court for sexual assault. All
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00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:25.159
through his hearings, Moses claimed that
he was innocent, but the prosecution was
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00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:30.560
able to provide enough evidence for Moses
to be found guilty of all charges.
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00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:35.120
He was sent to jail, still
claiming that he was innocent, but otherwise
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00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:38.680
a model inmate, and after only
seven years, he was released for good
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00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:45.360
behavior. Moses later claimed that it
was his time behind bars that led to
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00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:51.280
the escalation of his crimes and was
the cause for what happened next. On
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00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:54.919
the surface, his punishment seemed to
have done its job rehabilitating the young man.
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00:03:55.479 --> 00:04:00.199
Moses played the part of a reformed
model citizen. He got a job,
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and not just one that he had
to keep a roof over his head,
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but one that would help him change
the world around him for the better.
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Moses started running a charity called Youth
Against Human Abuse and their mission was
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to end child abuse. This was
a cause close to heart for Moses after
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his time in the orphanage, and
he seemed truly dedicated to making a difference
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for children who were going through the
same thing that he had gone through.
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Moses was warm and charismatic. He
drew people towards him and strengthened their beliefs
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in his cause. He would often
approach people on the street and bring them
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into the fold, offering protection,
a job, a way to change the
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world. But what Moses was really
doing was hunting for his next victims.
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Many of those people Moses approached were
women. He'd wave a job in their
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face and promised to get them an
interview, and for so many people trying
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to get by in such a difficult
period in South African history, a job
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was a hard, hard thing to
come by. Women would come in and
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Moses would get to know them a
little bit better. Maybe he'd offer them
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a job, or maybe he wouldn't. But for so many of those women,
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their fates had been unknowingly sealed as
soon as they'd walked into Moses's office.
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Moses' experience with the South African judicial
system and his time behind bars had
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taught him that victims could very easily
be turned into witnesses, and witnesses could
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get you into a lot of trouble. He said he targeted women who reminded
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him of Doris Wakemisa, the woman
whom he still alleged had falsely accused him
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of rape almost a decade before.
Other people, however, claimed that Moses
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targeted women who reminded him of his
mother. Whichever version is true, the
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fact is Moses would entice potential victims
with the promise of a job. The
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women would leave his office and go
about their daily lives, but Moses would
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be following. He'd then lure them
somewhere secluded field, attack them, sexually
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assault them, and then strangle them, most of the time with their own
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underwear. One of his victims,
a twenty five year old lady named Letta
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and the last name that I can't
pronounce, had her two year old son
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with her, and Moses was still
undeterred. For a man who was managing
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a charity aiming to end child abuse, Moses chose to show no compassion.
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He hit the child across the head
with a blunt object, injuring but not
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killing the toddler. While Moses was
dragging Letta away to assault and strangle her.
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The child was left at the mercy
of the Elements and would die a
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slow death of exposure. As if
his treatment of these women and in the
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child's case wasn't enough, Moses would
often phone his victims surviving families and taunt
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them. He usually gathered this kind
of contact information from his initial interviews with
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the women, or he would at
least get enough information from them that he
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could find their relatives all on his
own afterwards. With Moses's reign of terror,
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the nation was thrown into panic.
Its women were targeted by a killer
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known only as the ABC Killer,
who seemed to attack at random and at
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will. In an attempt to end
the long string of assaults and murders,
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Nelson Mandela made a public appeal for
anyone with any information to come forward,
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but it was like trying to catch
smoke with your bare hands. It was
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in August nineteen ninety five, around
thirty victims in and only two years after
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Moses's release for good behavior, that
a witness spotted Moses with his latest victim.
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He'd almost been caught once before,
when another witness had seen Moses acting
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unusually around another woman who later turned
up dead, but that witness hadn't been
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able to get a clear view of
Moses's face. This time, however,
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a witness clearly identified Moses as being
the last person one of the victims had
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been seen alive. With investigators inched
closer to finding the elusive ABC killer,
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named so because his crimes ranged from
Aderidgeville, Bocksburg, and Cleveland, they
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uncovered Moses's previous conviction for rape and
the investigation tightened around him, but Moses
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managed to escape before the police could
arrest him. By then, he'd already
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set up a house with another woman, had a daughter, and separated with
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the mother, choosing instead to become
homeless and then go on the run in
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order to continue his crime spree.
Strangely, Moses then contacted a journalist named
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Tamson de Beer and made a startling
confession. He claimed to be the ABC
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Killer and said that he'd actually killed
around seventy six women, not the thirty
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that he was wanted for. He
said he'd done all of this as revenge
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for his false imprisonment and to prove
that he was willing to tell the truth.
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Moses gave Tamson directions to one of
his victim's bodies that had yet to
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be say died. Tamson found the
remains and the police found Moses in Johannesburg.
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Instead of coming quietly, Moses violently
attacked the police with a hatchet,
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injuring one of them. Moses was
shot, but survived and was taken to
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a hospital, where it was discovered
that Moses was both HIV positive and had
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TB again, even after he'd already
confessed to Tamson to beer. Moses claimed
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that he was innocent, but the
combination of witness testimonies like those from Tamson
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and the other witnesses who'd sponted him
with victims helped put Moses behind bars yet
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again, only this time for good. Moses was charged with thirty eight murders,
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forty rapes, and six robberies,
all of which he was found guilty,
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and he received consecutive sentences for all
of them, giving him a grand
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total of two thy four hundred ten
years. He's hoping that history will repeat
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itself again and he'll get out on
good behavior. A judge ruled that he'd
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have to serve at least nine hundred
and thirty years of his sentence before he'd
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be eligible for parole, meaning he'd
have to live to the right bold age
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of nine hundred and sixty three before
he could walk the streets again. That's
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ten minute murder for today Brief and
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American, and even beyond that,
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know why. As someone that talks
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be that would be right in my
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trouble pronouncing names sometimes, and if
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