June 30, 2024
The Real Hannibal: Robery Maudsley
A childhood in a nun run orphanage might sound like a horror movie, but for Robert Maudsley and his siblings, it was almost like a vacation. In this episode, we dive into the life of Robert Maudsley, a man trapped in a brutal cycle of torture and...
A childhood in a nun run orphanage might sound like a horror movie, but for Robert Maudsley and his siblings, it was almost like a vacation. In this episode, we dive into the life of Robert Maudsley, a man trapped in a brutal cycle of torture and abuse, who would later become known as Britain's Hannibal the Cannibal. Discover the chilling story behind one of the UK's most notorious criminals.
Thank you so much for listening to and supporting 10 Minute Murder!
SUBSCRIBE to 10 Minute Murder.
Have friends that also like true-crime stories?
SHARE this podcast with them!
CONNECT on social media to read about new episodes and see visuals that go along with the story.
10minutemurder.com
email: joe@10minutemurder.com
_______
Follow 10 Minute Murder-
Facebook:
https://facebook.com/10MMpodcast
Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/10minutemurder/
TikTok:
https://www.tiktok.com/@10minutemurder
Threads:
https://www.threads.net/@10minutemurder
Youtube:
https://youtube.com/channel/UCkJLUCEZlkn9In3AA46RVxw
If you have a request for a case to be featured on 10 Minute Murder, or have any questions for Joe (the host), please feel free to send them to the email address above.
*******
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/10-minute-murder--4603604/support.
Thank you so much for listening to and supporting 10 Minute Murder!
SUBSCRIBE to 10 Minute Murder.
Have friends that also like true-crime stories?
SHARE this podcast with them!
CONNECT on social media to read about new episodes and see visuals that go along with the story.
10minutemurder.com
email: joe@10minutemurder.com
_______
Follow 10 Minute Murder-
Facebook:
https://facebook.com/10MMpodcast
Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/10minutemurder/
TikTok:
https://www.tiktok.com/@10minutemurder
Threads:
https://www.threads.net/@10minutemurder
Youtube:
https://youtube.com/channel/UCkJLUCEZlkn9In3AA46RVxw
If you have a request for a case to be featured on 10 Minute Murder, or have any questions for Joe (the host), please feel free to send them to the email address above.
*******
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/10-minute-murder--4603604/support.
WEBVTT
1
00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:44.799
Nineteen sixty one, Liverpool, London. An eight year old boy and his
2
00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:51.079
three older siblings stand outside the Nazareth
House, a Roman Catholic orphanage, waiting
3
00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:55.560
to go home. For many children
in the childcare systems around the world,
4
00:00:56.000 --> 00:01:00.119
this would be a happy occasion,
but for Robert Monseley this was one of
5
00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:04.920
the worst days of his life.
Robert was fourth in line of what would
6
00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:11.599
eventually be twelve children born to George
Mauldesley, a man whose name would become
7
00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:17.159
almost as infamous as one of his
own children would later on. The truth
8
00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:21.079
is that Robert and his older siblings
had been taken into care because of the
9
00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:26.560
dire conditions at home, and particularly
because of the way George treated them.
10
00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:30.159
Older brother to Robert, Paul Maudesley, spoke about their childhood and said,
11
00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:34.599
at the orphanage we had all got
on really well. Our parents would come
12
00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:38.519
to visit, but they were just
strangers. The nuns were our family,
13
00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:42.439
and we all used to stick together. Then our parents took us home and
14
00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:48.519
we were subjected to physical abuse.
It was something we'd never experienced before.
15
00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:52.519
They just picked on us one by
one, gave us a beating and sent
16
00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:56.400
us off to our room, but
it was Robert who seemed to be the
17
00:01:56.400 --> 00:02:00.920
biggest target of all. All I
remember of my childhood is the beatings,
18
00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:05.879
he later said. Once I was
locked in my room for six months and
19
00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:09.360
my father only opened the door to
come in and beat me four or six
20
00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:14.199
times a day. He used to
hit me with sticks or rods, and
21
00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:19.919
once he busted a twenty two caliber
air rifle over my back. Robert also
22
00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:23.439
claimed that during this period he was
sexually abused and raped by his father,
23
00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:29.240
and that was the life that waited
for Robert and his siblings back at home,
24
00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:32.240
and it was the life that he
would return to whenever the Liverpool child
25
00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:38.080
Care Services would send them back to
the Maudsley household for trial periods. These
26
00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:44.400
periods were never permanent, but the
damage inflicted during most of them certainly was
27
00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:50.000
During the late nineteen sixties, when
Robert became a teenager, he decided that
28
00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:54.240
enough was enough. He moved to
London to finn for himself and resorted to
29
00:02:54.439 --> 00:03:00.719
selling himself to men on the London
streets just to get by. Crippling drug
30
00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:06.639
addiction quickly followed, and Robert found
himself seeking help after several failed suicide attempts.
31
00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:09.599
It was while he was in care
for these attempts that he admitted to
32
00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:15.159
doctors that he heard voices that were
telling him to kill his parents. If
33
00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:20.560
I had killed my parents in nineteen
seventy he later said, none of these
34
00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:24.840
people would have died. What Robert
had meant by that statement started in nineteen
35
00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:31.120
seventy four with a man named John
Ferrell. John solicited Robert's services in wood
36
00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:37.199
Green, London, and for whatever
reason, decided to show Robert pictures of
37
00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:42.599
young children. John claimed to have
been sexually abusing. This confession made a
38
00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:47.120
switch flip in Robert's mind and there
was no going back. Robert then attacked
39
00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:52.960
John and strangled him with the garrot
until he was dead. Instead of running,
40
00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:57.360
John then surrendered himself to the police. He confessed to the murder and
41
00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:01.080
asked to be admitted into psychiatric care. That was a request that the courts
42
00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:05.960
granted when they found that Robert was
unfit to stand trial, and they sent
43
00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:13.479
him to Broadmoor Hospital, the oldest
high security psychiatric hospital in England. Robert
44
00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:17.480
spent three years there in relative peace, but that all changed when another patient
45
00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:21.720
crossed him the wrong way. His
name was David Francis, and his crime
46
00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:28.560
was child molestation. Upon learning this, Robert and another patient named David Cheeseman,
47
00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:31.519
who was ironically serving a sentence for
the rape and sexual assault of a
48
00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:38.120
sixteen year old girl, took matters
into their own hands. When David Francis
49
00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:42.839
was admitted into Broadmoor Hospital, he
already had one strike against him for his
50
00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:47.160
crimes, but after the alleged attack
and rape of two other inmates for David,
51
00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:53.600
Robert believed that there would be no
redemption. Robert and David Cheeseman cornered
52
00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:58.920
David Francis and slowly tortured and killed
him over a period of nine hours.
53
00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:03.680
The discoververy of Robert Maudsley's new crime
marked the end of his psychiatric care.
54
00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:11.120
Robert was then charged with manslaughter and
transferred to Wakefield Prison. A later sentencing
55
00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:15.160
made the transfer permanence, and he
was sentenced to life imprisonment with a recommendation
56
00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.959
that he should never be released.
The courts threw the book at him.
57
00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:23.879
For some this would have been the
end of their story and the end of
58
00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:29.759
their crimes, but Robert Maudsley was
far from finished. Within the year,
59
00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:33.920
he had struck again, and this
time, he had bigger ambitions than ridding
60
00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:39.439
the world of one measly criminal.
This time, Robert planned to take out
61
00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:44.839
seven, and he started with Souney
Darwood. On the surface, it looked
62
00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:49.319
like Soundly and Robert were actually friends. He would regularly give Robert French lessons,
63
00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:54.839
but Robert was only biding his time. One day, he invited Soundly
64
00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:59.439
over to his cell, where he
suddenly a viciously attacked him. He first
65
00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.199
strangled him with a garrot and then
stabbed him with a shank until he was
66
00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:06.839
dead. Robert then hid his body
under the bed so that he could continue
67
00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:14.040
his killing spree undisturbed. Unlike the
first two, Soudney was not a convicted
68
00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:18.600
child molester or abuser. This time
Robert's victim was imprisoned for killing his wife.
69
00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:24.079
But it looked like Robert had cast
the net of potential targets wider than
70
00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:29.120
he had before. With Soundee's body
still stashed away under Robert's bed, he
71
00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:32.480
then tried to lure more inmates into
his cell, where he intended to finish
72
00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:38.040
them off as well. Perhaps sensing
that something was wrong, all of the
73
00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:42.759
other prisoners refused to follow Robert,
realizing that he would have to work a
74
00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:46.120
little harder to get his next kill. Robert then left his cell and went
75
00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:51.319
on the hunt. As he stalked
the wing, he found William Roberts asleep
76
00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:56.600
in his bed. William was in
prison for abusing a seven year old girl,
77
00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:00.439
and as soon as Robert saw William
lying there, he bounced. Robert
78
00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:04.920
first stabbed at William's head several times
with his shank, and then he began
79
00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:11.439
bashing his head into the wall until
he was also dead. Roberts, all
80
00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:15.800
calm and collected, then walked up
to the guard's post, handed over his
81
00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:18.759
shank, and told them that the
next roll call would be two inmates.
82
00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:24.720
Short. Needless to say, his
confession shocked the prison and the country.
83
00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:29.839
That was twice now that Robert had
struck right under the administration's noses, and
84
00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:33.680
the second time around he'd managed to
take out two victims without getting caught.
85
00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:40.079
It was clear that the British justice
system had no ordinary criminal on their hands,
86
00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:43.879
and this was a fact that would
later become known nationwide. When his
87
00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:48.439
story reached the press. Some outlets
published a false report that Robert had actually
88
00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:55.240
eaten part of one of his victim's
brains and Robert Mautsley turned into an overnight
89
00:07:55.319 --> 00:08:00.959
sensation. He was now known as
Hannibal the Cannibal, and almost like they
90
00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:05.240
were playing into the hype, Wakefield
Prison built Robert his own cell. They
91
00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:09.199
buried him in the basement, caged
in a glass cell with metal bars,
92
00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:15.160
and locked him away in solitary confinement. If he is to ever leave a
93
00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:18.560
cell, he is to be guarded
and monitored by four prison officers at all
94
00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:24.600
times. That was the order.
Days became weeks, weeks became months,
95
00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:31.560
and months became years, and years
became decades. Still, Robert Maudsley is
96
00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:37.519
in solitary confinement. In two thousand, over twenty years later, Robert begged
97
00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:41.759
for the torment to end. Quote. I see this in part as going
98
00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:45.360
back to my childhood and going back
to the room where I was detained for
99
00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:50.200
six months and that torments me,
he said. He asked for either conditions
100
00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:52.879
of his solitary confinement to be eased, or for him to be given a
101
00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:58.559
cyanide capsule so that he could end
his confinement himself. Both of those requests
102
00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:03.679
were re fused, as was another
request for him to get a pet bird
103
00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:07.600
to keep him company in his cell. That has since become known as the
104
00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.960
cage. Are we not all products
of our environment? Robert later asked in
105
00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:18.039
a letter Wakefield prison authorities perceive me
as a problem. Their solution to that
106
00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.759
problem to date has been to bury
me alive the cage. Ultimately, for
107
00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:28.639
them being my concrete coffin, I'm
left to stagnate, vegetate and regress,
108
00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:33.080
left to confront my solitary head on
with people who have eyes but don't see,
109
00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:37.399
who have ears but don't hear,
and who have mouths but don't speak.
110
00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:43.120
Consequently, I too am left with
no voice, nowhere to turn.
111
00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:46.919
But inward. I had five years
sleeping on a mattress on the floor and
112
00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:50.679
just a slop bucket in my cell. I complained to the Board of prison
113
00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:54.000
visitors, but all they said was, well, you have a bed,
114
00:09:54.399 --> 00:10:00.600
what are you complaining for. Robert
Maudsley remains the longest prison are held in
115
00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:05.120
solitary confinement in Britain to date.
He is currently in his seventies and hasn't
116
00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:11.360
had regular human contact for over forty
years. He says that at this point
117
00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:13.879
he would find it very difficult to
get used to seeing and talking with the
118
00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:18.559
other inmates again, but that he
worries for the other younger prisoners who are
119
00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:37.080
kept imprisoned under the same circumstances as
he is. That's ten minute Murder for
120
00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:41.960
today brief and bingeable true Crime.
I'm Joe, I'm the host, and
121
00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:46.039
thank you so much for taking the
time to listen to ten minute Murder.
122
00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:52.120
And I guess you could consider this
this episode a serial Killer Sunday even though
123
00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:56.679
I don't really do that anymore.
Some of the episodes that you're going to
124
00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:01.559
hear me release on Sundays aren't actually
serial killers, which you could consider this
125
00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.559
a serial killer Sunday episode. Robert
Maudsley, that's a disturbing story and one
126
00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:11.159
that if you kind of have a
heart and can I don't want to say
127
00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:15.240
look past what he did, but
you almost have to look past what he
128
00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:18.279
did to see him as a human
if you see him as a human being.
129
00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:20.759
Let me put it that way,
if you see Robert as another human
130
00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:24.360
being, you kind of feel for
him a little bit, and you don't
131
00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:26.360
feel for him. And the fact
that you know you don't need to murder
132
00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:30.840
people. You've been through a lot. You've been through like the worst that
133
00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:35.279
you can go through and still be
alive, but killing people is not the
134
00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.120
answer. And he's obviously mentally unwell, and that's a horrible situation that he
135
00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:43.759
has found himself in for over forty
years in that prison. Some would say,
136
00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:48.000
well deserved. Hey, if you're
a brand new listener to the podcast,
137
00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:52.279
make sure you hit subscribe wherever you
are listening right now. That will
138
00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:54.919
more easily help you catch up on
all the back episodes and every time there's
139
00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:58.840
a new one, you open the
app that you like to listen in and
140
00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:01.519
then boom, it's going to be
right there for you to take a listen
141
00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:05.679
to Joe at ten Minute Murder dot
com is my email address if you want
142
00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:07.600
to get in touch with me.
And that's it. That's your episode for
143
00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.759
today. Thank you so much for
listening to ten Minute Murder.
1
00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:44.799
Nineteen sixty one, Liverpool, London. An eight year old boy and his
2
00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:51.079
three older siblings stand outside the Nazareth
House, a Roman Catholic orphanage, waiting
3
00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:55.560
to go home. For many children
in the childcare systems around the world,
4
00:00:56.000 --> 00:01:00.119
this would be a happy occasion,
but for Robert Monseley this was one of
5
00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:04.920
the worst days of his life.
Robert was fourth in line of what would
6
00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:11.599
eventually be twelve children born to George
Mauldesley, a man whose name would become
7
00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:17.159
almost as infamous as one of his
own children would later on. The truth
8
00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:21.079
is that Robert and his older siblings
had been taken into care because of the
9
00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:26.560
dire conditions at home, and particularly
because of the way George treated them.
10
00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:30.159
Older brother to Robert, Paul Maudesley, spoke about their childhood and said,
11
00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:34.599
at the orphanage we had all got
on really well. Our parents would come
12
00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:38.519
to visit, but they were just
strangers. The nuns were our family,
13
00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:42.439
and we all used to stick together. Then our parents took us home and
14
00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:48.519
we were subjected to physical abuse.
It was something we'd never experienced before.
15
00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:52.519
They just picked on us one by
one, gave us a beating and sent
16
00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:56.400
us off to our room, but
it was Robert who seemed to be the
17
00:01:56.400 --> 00:02:00.920
biggest target of all. All I
remember of my childhood is the beatings,
18
00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:05.879
he later said. Once I was
locked in my room for six months and
19
00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:09.360
my father only opened the door to
come in and beat me four or six
20
00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:14.199
times a day. He used to
hit me with sticks or rods, and
21
00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:19.919
once he busted a twenty two caliber
air rifle over my back. Robert also
22
00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:23.439
claimed that during this period he was
sexually abused and raped by his father,
23
00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:29.240
and that was the life that waited
for Robert and his siblings back at home,
24
00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:32.240
and it was the life that he
would return to whenever the Liverpool child
25
00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:38.080
Care Services would send them back to
the Maudsley household for trial periods. These
26
00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:44.400
periods were never permanent, but the
damage inflicted during most of them certainly was
27
00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:50.000
During the late nineteen sixties, when
Robert became a teenager, he decided that
28
00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:54.240
enough was enough. He moved to
London to finn for himself and resorted to
29
00:02:54.439 --> 00:03:00.719
selling himself to men on the London
streets just to get by. Crippling drug
30
00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:06.639
addiction quickly followed, and Robert found
himself seeking help after several failed suicide attempts.
31
00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:09.599
It was while he was in care
for these attempts that he admitted to
32
00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:15.159
doctors that he heard voices that were
telling him to kill his parents. If
33
00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:20.560
I had killed my parents in nineteen
seventy he later said, none of these
34
00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:24.840
people would have died. What Robert
had meant by that statement started in nineteen
35
00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:31.120
seventy four with a man named John
Ferrell. John solicited Robert's services in wood
36
00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:37.199
Green, London, and for whatever
reason, decided to show Robert pictures of
37
00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:42.599
young children. John claimed to have
been sexually abusing. This confession made a
38
00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:47.120
switch flip in Robert's mind and there
was no going back. Robert then attacked
39
00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:52.960
John and strangled him with the garrot
until he was dead. Instead of running,
40
00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:57.360
John then surrendered himself to the police. He confessed to the murder and
41
00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:01.080
asked to be admitted into psychiatric care. That was a request that the courts
42
00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:05.960
granted when they found that Robert was
unfit to stand trial, and they sent
43
00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:13.479
him to Broadmoor Hospital, the oldest
high security psychiatric hospital in England. Robert
44
00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:17.480
spent three years there in relative peace, but that all changed when another patient
45
00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:21.720
crossed him the wrong way. His
name was David Francis, and his crime
46
00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:28.560
was child molestation. Upon learning this, Robert and another patient named David Cheeseman,
47
00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:31.519
who was ironically serving a sentence for
the rape and sexual assault of a
48
00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:38.120
sixteen year old girl, took matters
into their own hands. When David Francis
49
00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:42.839
was admitted into Broadmoor Hospital, he
already had one strike against him for his
50
00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:47.160
crimes, but after the alleged attack
and rape of two other inmates for David,
51
00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:53.600
Robert believed that there would be no
redemption. Robert and David Cheeseman cornered
52
00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:58.920
David Francis and slowly tortured and killed
him over a period of nine hours.
53
00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:03.680
The discoververy of Robert Maudsley's new crime
marked the end of his psychiatric care.
54
00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:11.120
Robert was then charged with manslaughter and
transferred to Wakefield Prison. A later sentencing
55
00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:15.160
made the transfer permanence, and he
was sentenced to life imprisonment with a recommendation
56
00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.959
that he should never be released.
The courts threw the book at him.
57
00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:23.879
For some this would have been the
end of their story and the end of
58
00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:29.759
their crimes, but Robert Maudsley was
far from finished. Within the year,
59
00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:33.920
he had struck again, and this
time, he had bigger ambitions than ridding
60
00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:39.439
the world of one measly criminal.
This time, Robert planned to take out
61
00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:44.839
seven, and he started with Souney
Darwood. On the surface, it looked
62
00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:49.319
like Soundly and Robert were actually friends. He would regularly give Robert French lessons,
63
00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:54.839
but Robert was only biding his time. One day, he invited Soundly
64
00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:59.439
over to his cell, where he
suddenly a viciously attacked him. He first
65
00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.199
strangled him with a garrot and then
stabbed him with a shank until he was
66
00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:06.839
dead. Robert then hid his body
under the bed so that he could continue
67
00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:14.040
his killing spree undisturbed. Unlike the
first two, Soudney was not a convicted
68
00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:18.600
child molester or abuser. This time
Robert's victim was imprisoned for killing his wife.
69
00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:24.079
But it looked like Robert had cast
the net of potential targets wider than
70
00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:29.120
he had before. With Soundee's body
still stashed away under Robert's bed, he
71
00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:32.480
then tried to lure more inmates into
his cell, where he intended to finish
72
00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:38.040
them off as well. Perhaps sensing
that something was wrong, all of the
73
00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:42.759
other prisoners refused to follow Robert,
realizing that he would have to work a
74
00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:46.120
little harder to get his next kill. Robert then left his cell and went
75
00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:51.319
on the hunt. As he stalked
the wing, he found William Roberts asleep
76
00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:56.600
in his bed. William was in
prison for abusing a seven year old girl,
77
00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:00.439
and as soon as Robert saw William
lying there, he bounced. Robert
78
00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:04.920
first stabbed at William's head several times
with his shank, and then he began
79
00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:11.439
bashing his head into the wall until
he was also dead. Roberts, all
80
00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:15.800
calm and collected, then walked up
to the guard's post, handed over his
81
00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:18.759
shank, and told them that the
next roll call would be two inmates.
82
00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:24.720
Short. Needless to say, his
confession shocked the prison and the country.
83
00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:29.839
That was twice now that Robert had
struck right under the administration's noses, and
84
00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:33.680
the second time around he'd managed to
take out two victims without getting caught.
85
00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:40.079
It was clear that the British justice
system had no ordinary criminal on their hands,
86
00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:43.879
and this was a fact that would
later become known nationwide. When his
87
00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:48.439
story reached the press. Some outlets
published a false report that Robert had actually
88
00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:55.240
eaten part of one of his victim's
brains and Robert Mautsley turned into an overnight
89
00:07:55.319 --> 00:08:00.959
sensation. He was now known as
Hannibal the Cannibal, and almost like they
90
00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:05.240
were playing into the hype, Wakefield
Prison built Robert his own cell. They
91
00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:09.199
buried him in the basement, caged
in a glass cell with metal bars,
92
00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:15.160
and locked him away in solitary confinement. If he is to ever leave a
93
00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:18.560
cell, he is to be guarded
and monitored by four prison officers at all
94
00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:24.600
times. That was the order.
Days became weeks, weeks became months,
95
00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:31.560
and months became years, and years
became decades. Still, Robert Maudsley is
96
00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:37.519
in solitary confinement. In two thousand, over twenty years later, Robert begged
97
00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:41.759
for the torment to end. Quote. I see this in part as going
98
00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:45.360
back to my childhood and going back
to the room where I was detained for
99
00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:50.200
six months and that torments me,
he said. He asked for either conditions
100
00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:52.879
of his solitary confinement to be eased, or for him to be given a
101
00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:58.559
cyanide capsule so that he could end
his confinement himself. Both of those requests
102
00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:03.679
were re fused, as was another
request for him to get a pet bird
103
00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:07.600
to keep him company in his cell. That has since become known as the
104
00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.960
cage. Are we not all products
of our environment? Robert later asked in
105
00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:18.039
a letter Wakefield prison authorities perceive me
as a problem. Their solution to that
106
00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.759
problem to date has been to bury
me alive the cage. Ultimately, for
107
00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:28.639
them being my concrete coffin, I'm
left to stagnate, vegetate and regress,
108
00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:33.080
left to confront my solitary head on
with people who have eyes but don't see,
109
00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:37.399
who have ears but don't hear,
and who have mouths but don't speak.
110
00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:43.120
Consequently, I too am left with
no voice, nowhere to turn.
111
00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:46.919
But inward. I had five years
sleeping on a mattress on the floor and
112
00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:50.679
just a slop bucket in my cell. I complained to the Board of prison
113
00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:54.000
visitors, but all they said was, well, you have a bed,
114
00:09:54.399 --> 00:10:00.600
what are you complaining for. Robert
Maudsley remains the longest prison are held in
115
00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:05.120
solitary confinement in Britain to date.
He is currently in his seventies and hasn't
116
00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:11.360
had regular human contact for over forty
years. He says that at this point
117
00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:13.879
he would find it very difficult to
get used to seeing and talking with the
118
00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:18.559
other inmates again, but that he
worries for the other younger prisoners who are
119
00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:37.080
kept imprisoned under the same circumstances as
he is. That's ten minute Murder for
120
00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:41.960
today brief and bingeable true Crime.
I'm Joe, I'm the host, and
121
00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:46.039
thank you so much for taking the
time to listen to ten minute Murder.
122
00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:52.120
And I guess you could consider this
this episode a serial Killer Sunday even though
123
00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:56.679
I don't really do that anymore.
Some of the episodes that you're going to
124
00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:01.559
hear me release on Sundays aren't actually
serial killers, which you could consider this
125
00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.559
a serial killer Sunday episode. Robert
Maudsley, that's a disturbing story and one
126
00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:11.159
that if you kind of have a
heart and can I don't want to say
127
00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:15.240
look past what he did, but
you almost have to look past what he
128
00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:18.279
did to see him as a human
if you see him as a human being.
129
00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:20.759
Let me put it that way,
if you see Robert as another human
130
00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:24.360
being, you kind of feel for
him a little bit, and you don't
131
00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:26.360
feel for him. And the fact
that you know you don't need to murder
132
00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:30.840
people. You've been through a lot. You've been through like the worst that
133
00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:35.279
you can go through and still be
alive, but killing people is not the
134
00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.120
answer. And he's obviously mentally unwell, and that's a horrible situation that he
135
00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:43.759
has found himself in for over forty
years in that prison. Some would say,
136
00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:48.000
well deserved. Hey, if you're
a brand new listener to the podcast,
137
00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:52.279
make sure you hit subscribe wherever you
are listening right now. That will
138
00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:54.919
more easily help you catch up on
all the back episodes and every time there's
139
00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:58.840
a new one, you open the
app that you like to listen in and
140
00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:01.519
then boom, it's going to be
right there for you to take a listen
141
00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:05.679
to Joe at ten Minute Murder dot
com is my email address if you want
142
00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:07.600
to get in touch with me.
And that's it. That's your episode for
143
00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.759
today. Thank you so much for
listening to ten Minute Murder.