Aug. 22, 2023
The Voices In Christine's Head

A teenage babysitter left a trail of dead children in her wake - but for more than a year of operating undetected, Christine Falling was able to listen to the voices in her head that urged her to kill.
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A teenage babysitter left a trail of dead children in her wake - but for more than a year of operating undetected, Christine Falling was able to listen to the voices in her head that urged her to kill.
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Discretion is advised. This is ten
minted murder. Christine Falling was born in
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Perry, Florida, in nineteen sixty
three. Her original last name was Slaughter,
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but it was changed to Falling after
her sixteen year old mother surrendered Christine
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and her older sister for adoption when
they were both toddlers. Christine's father was
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five decades older than her teenage mother. He was a violent and controlling man
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who terrorized his underaged spouse from the
moment she was born. Christine's childhood was
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00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:57.439
tough. She suffered from seizures,
had aggressive outbursts, and was described as
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00:00:57.479 --> 00:01:00.880
being dull witted by the people that
knew her. For the rest of her
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life, her language skills never advanced
beyond a sixth grade level. As a
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young child, Christine developed a habit
of wreaking havoc on the neighborhood cats.
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She later admitted that she strangled the
animals as a way of showing them her
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love. After she heard the myth
that cats had nine lives, she decided
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to test the theory by throwing cats
from the top of the tallest buildings that
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she could find, which was usually
fatal. By the time she was rehomed
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to a children's refuge at nine years
of age. Christine had become obese and
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you couldn't count the number of cats
that she had harmed. At this point.
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The staff at the children's home described
her as being a disobedient thief who
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lied for fun, and the other
children bullied Christine for her low intelligence and
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obesity. When she was only fourteen
years old, Christine got married to a
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man who was a decade older than
her, but the marriage lasted for less
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than two months. Their reason for
divorce as frequent outbursts of violence and constant
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fighting, which was unsurprising giving that
Christine had grown up believing that strangulation was
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an appropriate way to show love.
During one of the arguments she had with
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her husband, Christine grabbed a twenty
five pounds stereo, which she threw at
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him as hard as she could,
and this was likely not the outcome that
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the man expected when he chose a
fourteen year old bride, and the couple
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broke up shortly afterwards. After her
marriage ended, Christine's mental health plummeted for
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more than a year. She became
an extreme hypochondriac, constantly convinced that she
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was seriously ill. Every week she
thought she had a different disease. Over
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this time period, she took herself
to the hospital at least once a week,
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but every time the doctors found no
sign of illness that they could treat.
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Christine was now in her mid teens, had already been divorced, had
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no stable income. She decided to
work as a babysitter, caring for the
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kids of her family members and neighbors. Despite her intellectual difficulties and her disheveled
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appearance, Christine quickly became a trusted
babysitter and was known for being reliable and
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good with children, but when she
turned seventeen, this reputation began to change.
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On the twenty fifth of February nineteen
eighty, she was tasked with caring
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for a local girl, two year
old Cassidy Johnson. Three days later,
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Cassidy passed away. Cassidy's parents rushed
her to the hospital shortly after Christine's babysitting
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shift ended, and the doctor believed
that Cassidy's strange symptoms were due to encephalitis,
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which is inflammation in the brain,
but Cassidy never responded to treatment,
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and on February twenty eighth she died. The doctor ordered an autopsy, which
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revealed that Cassidy wasn't sick with encephalitis. Instead, she died from a severe
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head injury. The police immediately investigated
how Cassidy had gotten such a serious head
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wound, and the girl's parents quickly
pointed to the babysitter, Christine Falling.
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In an interview with the police,
Christine provided an explanation for Cassidy's head injury.
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She had climbed out of her crib
and fallen to the floor, knocking
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her unconscious, but Christine did not
explain why she hadn't told the parents about
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the injury when they came to pick
up their daughter. The story didn't add
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up, but the police didn't have
any hard evidence that Christine was lying,
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and they had no choice but to
close the investigation. Meanwhile, Christine decided
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to do what any innocent person would
do. She immediately fled town and relocated
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to Lakeland, Florida. Once she
was safely away from the rumors. Back
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in her hometown of Perry, she
began to advertise her babysitting services again.
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It was only two months before another
child died while being looked after by Christine
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four year old Jeffrey Davis. Unlike
Cassidy, who fought for a life for
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three days, Jeffrey died quickly and
suddenly. Because Jeffrey had no medical conditions
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and there had been no warning signs
leading to his death, his body was
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autopsied. The only abnormality that medical
examiner found was myocarditis, inflammation of the
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heart, which was unlikely to be
the cause of Jeffrey's death. Jeffrey's funeral
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was held three days later, and
his uncle and aunts needed a babysitter for
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their own toddler so that they could
attend the service. For the second time
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in a week, a young child
was left in the care of Christine falling,
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and once again the child died.
According to Christine, Jeffrey's cousin was
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taking a nap but never woke up. The toddler's physician suggested that Jeffrey and
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his younger cousin might have both caught
the same viral infection, leading to their
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sudden deaths some unknown viral infection.
It was only a matter of time before
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the residence of Lakeland figured out that
the two children had died in the care
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of the same babysitter. Before they
had a chance to make the connection,
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Christine moved back home to Perry.
She knew she wouldn't be able to get
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another babysitting job, so she worked
as a housekeeper for Wilbur's Swindle, an
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elderly man with severe disabilities. This
job only lasted one day. Within hours
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of Christine arriving at Wilbur's house,
the old man dropped dead in the kitchen.
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Due to his poor health and old
age, local police never looked into
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the death, believing it was just
a heart attack. Within weeks of wilbur
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Swindle's sudden death, Christine was invited
to go shopping with her stepsister. Her
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stepniece, eight month old Jennifer,
came with them. Christine's stepsister decided that
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she would quickly run into the supermarket, leaving Christine alone in the car with
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Jennifer, But when she returned to
the car minutes later, she found Christine
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panicking and her daughter unresponsive. Christine
told her that Jennifer had suddenly stopped breathing.
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Because of Jennifer's age, doctors believed
that her cause of death was sudden
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infant death syndrome or SIDS, and
the case was never investigated. Christine Falling
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was followed by a string of mysterious
deaths, but despite making almost no effort
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to hide her involvement, she'd been
very lucky. All of the deaths appeared
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to be of somewhat natural causes,
a viral infection, a heart attack,
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sudden infant death syndrome. It was
only a year later, when Christine was
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babysitting a ten week old baby,
that her luck finally ran out. It
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was the same story that Christine had
told every time. It was the second
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of July nineteen eighty two, and
Christine was caring for newborn Travis Coleman when
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he suddenly stopped breathing. Travis's grieving
parents didn't believe that their healthy baby had
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suddenly died of natural causes, and
they agreed to have their son's body autopsied.
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The autopsy found no sign of illness
or disease, but the medical examiner
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found undeniable evidence that Travis Coleman had
died of suffoc There was no chance that
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his death had been an accident.
The ten week old baby had been murdered,
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and Christine Falling had been alone with
him when he died. Local police
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immediately paid Christine a visit. During
her interrogation, Christine quickly confessed that she
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had killed three of the children by
holding a blanket over their noses and mouths,
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a method that she called smother ration. According to Christine, she had
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murdered the babies in response to the
overwhelming voices that she heard in her head,
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which repeatedly chanted, killed the baby, killed the baby. She eventually
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did with the voices asked, and
chose suffocation as her method of killing because
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she said she had seen it while
watching television shows. She described smothering the
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babies as being simple and easy,
telling the officer that no one would hear
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them scream. Not only had Christine
confessed to the crimes, but she also
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seemed to be remorseless of her actions. She was convicted of murder and sentenced
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to life behind bars with no chance
of parole for at least twenty five years.
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Apart from wanting to obey the voices
in her head, Christine was never
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able to give a clear motive for
the killings. It seemed as if she
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simply had the urge to kill and
saw no problem with following through on that
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urge, even though she was recognized
as being intellectually handicapped and mentally ill,
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Christine was never found to be legally
insane. Her application for parole was rejected
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in twenty seventeen and her next hearing
will be in twenty twenty four. That
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Discretion is advised. This is ten
minted murder. Christine Falling was born in
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00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:29.679
Perry, Florida, in nineteen sixty
three. Her original last name was Slaughter,
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00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:34.920
but it was changed to Falling after
her sixteen year old mother surrendered Christine
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00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:41.079
and her older sister for adoption when
they were both toddlers. Christine's father was
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00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:46.280
five decades older than her teenage mother. He was a violent and controlling man
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00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:51.960
who terrorized his underaged spouse from the
moment she was born. Christine's childhood was
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00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:57.439
tough. She suffered from seizures,
had aggressive outbursts, and was described as
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00:00:57.479 --> 00:01:00.880
being dull witted by the people that
knew her. For the rest of her
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00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:06.959
life, her language skills never advanced
beyond a sixth grade level. As a
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00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:11.319
young child, Christine developed a habit
of wreaking havoc on the neighborhood cats.
11
00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:15.840
She later admitted that she strangled the
animals as a way of showing them her
12
00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:21.640
love. After she heard the myth
that cats had nine lives, she decided
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00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:25.480
to test the theory by throwing cats
from the top of the tallest buildings that
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00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:30.079
she could find, which was usually
fatal. By the time she was rehomed
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00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:34.359
to a children's refuge at nine years
of age. Christine had become obese and
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00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:38.760
you couldn't count the number of cats
that she had harmed. At this point.
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The staff at the children's home described
her as being a disobedient thief who
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lied for fun, and the other
children bullied Christine for her low intelligence and
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00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:52.920
obesity. When she was only fourteen
years old, Christine got married to a
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00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:57.280
man who was a decade older than
her, but the marriage lasted for less
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than two months. Their reason for
divorce as frequent outbursts of violence and constant
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00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:08.000
fighting, which was unsurprising giving that
Christine had grown up believing that strangulation was
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00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:12.919
an appropriate way to show love.
During one of the arguments she had with
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00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:16.319
her husband, Christine grabbed a twenty
five pounds stereo, which she threw at
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00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:20.560
him as hard as she could,
and this was likely not the outcome that
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00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:24.639
the man expected when he chose a
fourteen year old bride, and the couple
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00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:30.520
broke up shortly afterwards. After her
marriage ended, Christine's mental health plummeted for
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00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:37.400
more than a year. She became
an extreme hypochondriac, constantly convinced that she
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00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:42.159
was seriously ill. Every week she
thought she had a different disease. Over
30
00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:45.439
this time period, she took herself
to the hospital at least once a week,
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00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:49.840
but every time the doctors found no
sign of illness that they could treat.
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Christine was now in her mid teens, had already been divorced, had
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no stable income. She decided to
work as a babysitter, caring for the
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00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:05.840
kids of her family members and neighbors. Despite her intellectual difficulties and her disheveled
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00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:10.439
appearance, Christine quickly became a trusted
babysitter and was known for being reliable and
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00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:15.520
good with children, but when she
turned seventeen, this reputation began to change.
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00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:21.479
On the twenty fifth of February nineteen
eighty, she was tasked with caring
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00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:25.240
for a local girl, two year
old Cassidy Johnson. Three days later,
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00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:31.520
Cassidy passed away. Cassidy's parents rushed
her to the hospital shortly after Christine's babysitting
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shift ended, and the doctor believed
that Cassidy's strange symptoms were due to encephalitis,
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which is inflammation in the brain,
but Cassidy never responded to treatment,
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and on February twenty eighth she died. The doctor ordered an autopsy, which
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revealed that Cassidy wasn't sick with encephalitis. Instead, she died from a severe
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head injury. The police immediately investigated
how Cassidy had gotten such a serious head
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wound, and the girl's parents quickly
pointed to the babysitter, Christine Falling.
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In an interview with the police,
Christine provided an explanation for Cassidy's head injury.
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She had climbed out of her crib
and fallen to the floor, knocking
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her unconscious, but Christine did not
explain why she hadn't told the parents about
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the injury when they came to pick
up their daughter. The story didn't add
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up, but the police didn't have
any hard evidence that Christine was lying,
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and they had no choice but to
close the investigation. Meanwhile, Christine decided
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to do what any innocent person would
do. She immediately fled town and relocated
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to Lakeland, Florida. Once she
was safely away from the rumors. Back
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in her hometown of Perry, she
began to advertise her babysitting services again.
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It was only two months before another
child died while being looked after by Christine
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four year old Jeffrey Davis. Unlike
Cassidy, who fought for a life for
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three days, Jeffrey died quickly and
suddenly. Because Jeffrey had no medical conditions
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and there had been no warning signs
leading to his death, his body was
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autopsied. The only abnormality that medical
examiner found was myocarditis, inflammation of the
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heart, which was unlikely to be
the cause of Jeffrey's death. Jeffrey's funeral
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was held three days later, and
his uncle and aunts needed a babysitter for
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their own toddler so that they could
attend the service. For the second time
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in a week, a young child
was left in the care of Christine falling,
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and once again the child died.
According to Christine, Jeffrey's cousin was
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taking a nap but never woke up. The toddler's physician suggested that Jeffrey and
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his younger cousin might have both caught
the same viral infection, leading to their
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sudden deaths some unknown viral infection.
It was only a matter of time before
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the residence of Lakeland figured out that
the two children had died in the care
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of the same babysitter. Before they
had a chance to make the connection,
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Christine moved back home to Perry.
She knew she wouldn't be able to get
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another babysitting job, so she worked
as a housekeeper for Wilbur's Swindle, an
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elderly man with severe disabilities. This
job only lasted one day. Within hours
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of Christine arriving at Wilbur's house,
the old man dropped dead in the kitchen.
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Due to his poor health and old
age, local police never looked into
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the death, believing it was just
a heart attack. Within weeks of wilbur
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Swindle's sudden death, Christine was invited
to go shopping with her stepsister. Her
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stepniece, eight month old Jennifer,
came with them. Christine's stepsister decided that
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she would quickly run into the supermarket, leaving Christine alone in the car with
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Jennifer, But when she returned to
the car minutes later, she found Christine
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panicking and her daughter unresponsive. Christine
told her that Jennifer had suddenly stopped breathing.
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Because of Jennifer's age, doctors believed
that her cause of death was sudden
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infant death syndrome or SIDS, and
the case was never investigated. Christine Falling
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was followed by a string of mysterious
deaths, but despite making almost no effort
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to hide her involvement, she'd been
very lucky. All of the deaths appeared
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to be of somewhat natural causes,
a viral infection, a heart attack,
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sudden infant death syndrome. It was
only a year later, when Christine was
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babysitting a ten week old baby,
that her luck finally ran out. It
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was the same story that Christine had
told every time. It was the second
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of July nineteen eighty two, and
Christine was caring for newborn Travis Coleman when
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he suddenly stopped breathing. Travis's grieving
parents didn't believe that their healthy baby had
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suddenly died of natural causes, and
they agreed to have their son's body autopsied.
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The autopsy found no sign of illness
or disease, but the medical examiner
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found undeniable evidence that Travis Coleman had
died of suffoc There was no chance that
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his death had been an accident.
The ten week old baby had been murdered,
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and Christine Falling had been alone with
him when he died. Local police
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immediately paid Christine a visit. During
her interrogation, Christine quickly confessed that she
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had killed three of the children by
holding a blanket over their noses and mouths,
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a method that she called smother ration. According to Christine, she had
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murdered the babies in response to the
overwhelming voices that she heard in her head,
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which repeatedly chanted, killed the baby, killed the baby. She eventually
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did with the voices asked, and
chose suffocation as her method of killing because
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she said she had seen it while
watching television shows. She described smothering the
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babies as being simple and easy,
telling the officer that no one would hear
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them scream. Not only had Christine
confessed to the crimes, but she also
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seemed to be remorseless of her actions. She was convicted of murder and sentenced
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to life behind bars with no chance
of parole for at least twenty five years.
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Apart from wanting to obey the voices
in her head, Christine was never
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able to give a clear motive for
the killings. It seemed as if she
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simply had the urge to kill and
saw no problem with following through on that
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urge, even though she was recognized
as being intellectually handicapped and mentally ill,
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Christine was never found to be legally
insane. Her application for parole was rejected
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in twenty seventeen and her next hearing
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