July 13, 2023
The Zodiac Killer

In the 1960s, Northern California was terrorized by an unknown man known only as the “The Zodiac Killer.” To this day, his real identity has never been discovered.
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Discretion is it by him? Murder? If you know true crime, you've
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heard of the Zodiac Killer. He's
one of the world's most famous serial murderers.
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Even though five decades have passed since
his killing spree and fifty years on,
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his case is still wide open,
with law enforcement working to uncover the
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identity of the man who killed at
least five people between late nineteen sixty eight
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and nineteen sixty nine. Why does
the world still have such a fascination with
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an unidentified killer From the nineteen sixties, the crimes carried out by the Zodiac
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were not unusual. Five confirmed murders
where two young couples and one lone cab
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driver were shot to death. Two
other victims had been wounded but survived their
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injuries, but they weren't able to
identify the assailant. The descriptions of the
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killer provided by their survivors are vague
enough that they could have been almost anyone.
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Whites, brown headed, male,
late twenties or early thirties, around
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two hundred pounds, less than six
feet tall, wearing dark clothing. There
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was nothing about him that seemed especially
memorable, apart from the fact that he
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was killing strangers without remorse, and
the one report of him wearing a black
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execution style hood while approaching his victims. It's possible that if all he had
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done is murder his victims and then
disappear, he might have been forgotten by
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now. But it wasn't necessarily the
killings themselves that made the Zodiac so notorious.
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It was what he did next.
It was not uncommon for serial killers
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to contact police or local media in
searching themselves into the investigation, making threats
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or taunting the cops for not being
able to catch them quickly enough. The
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Zodiac did this, even calling the
police to report a murder shortly after he
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had finished shooting his victims. He
also seemed to have some knowledge of how
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to slow down law enforcement, killing
several of his victims in areas where police
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jurisdiction overlapped, making the investigations slower. One of the reasons for the Zodiac
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Killer's notoriety is the sheer volume of
letters that he submitted to local newspapers taking
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responsibility for the recent killings, including
encrypted text puzzles called cryptograms, one of
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which he claimed would reveal his identity
if solved. He said that if the
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letters weren't published on the front page
of the newspaper. He'd kill a dozen
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people over the weekend. It was
in one of these letters that he gave
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himself a nickname, Dear Editor.
The letter began, this is the Zodiac
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speaking. He was responding to a
request by the Vallejo police chief, who
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had asked the author of the previous
letters to prove that they were the real
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killer by revealing details that the public
weren't aware of. Sure Enough, the
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letter from the Zodiac contained details about
the crimes that only the killer would know.
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It was confirmed they had been communicating
directly with the man who would quickly
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become known by his own nickname.
They were reading a letter from the Zodiac
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Killer. One of the letters contained
a list of ways in which the killer
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had supposedly murdered his victims, including
two methods which had not been seen in
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any of the linked cases. By
rope presumably meaning strangulation, and by fire.
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In the confirmed killings, the Zodiac's
weapons of choice had either been a
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military style bladed weapon or an automatic
pistol. It seemed as if he preferred
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using guns. He'd admitted in one
of his letters to taping a flashlight to
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his pistol, allowing him to aim
when shooting at night. In another letter,
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he claimed to be responsible for thirty
seven murders. The details the Zodiac
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had provided in his letters so far
had been accurate. What if he was
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telling the truth and he had other
victims that had not been connected to the
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case. Out of all the murders
that could possibly be linked to the Zodiac
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Killer, the Santa Rosa hitchhiker murders
were probably the most famous. During the
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early nineteen seventies, at least seven
women hitchhiking through California's North Bay area were
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murdered, stripped, and found dumped
in an isolated area or in creek beds.
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The killer was never found, but
the Zodiac Killer has remained near the
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top of the list of suspects,
especially after an occult symbol similar to those
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in his letters was found by the
body of one of the hitchhikers. Several
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of the victims had been slowly strangled
to death with a length of court Could
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this have been what the Zodiac meant
when referring to rope. This was the
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kind of valuable information provided by the
Zodiac Killer's communication. Hince at his m
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o, his personality and other crimes
that he may have committed. It was
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likely that one day the Zodiac's letters
would be the thing that got him caught
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DNA advancements, getting too confident,
revealing too much information. There were so
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many traps that he could have fallen
into. But in nineteen seventy four,
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all communication from the Zodiac Killer ceased. It seemed as if he might have
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just stopped killing, but it was
hard to tell. Without the taunting messages
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and damning letters linking the cases together
and proving that the killer was the same,
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Investigators were left trying to solve the
puzzles that he'd provided, while also
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narrowing down a hefty list of suspects. The only suspect whose name was ever
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made public was a convicted sex offender, Arthur Lee Allen. Some of the
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circumstantial evidence was suspicious. Arthur lived
close to one of the victims. He'd
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been in the area when at least
one of the young couples were murdered,
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and one of his friends had told
the police that Arthur talked about wanting to
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murder people and even used the name
Zodiac to refer to himself. Other pieces
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of evidence I'm using air quotes there
seemed more like grasping at straws. Arthur
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owned a wristwatch made by the brand
Zodiac. He used the same typewriter that
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one of the letters had been written
on. But all the evidence against Arthur
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Lee Allen was just that circumstantial.
In two thousand and two, a decade
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after Arthur passed away, a DNA
profile was created from samples of the Zodiac
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Killers saliva. Arthur's DNA was compared
to the sample. It was not a
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match. Lloyd Cunningham, police handwriting
expert, who had worked on the case,
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said this about the possibility of Arthur
Allen being the killer quote. They
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gave me banana boxes full of Arthur
Lee's writing, and none of his writing
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even came close to the Zodiac,
Nor did DNA extract it from the envelopes
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on the Zodiac's letters come close to
Arthur Lee Allen. In total, four
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cryptogram puzzles were sent by the Zodiac
Killer. One cipher was solved shortly after
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it was published, providing the insight
that the author quote liked killing people because
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it was so much fun. For
years, investigators, codebreakers and puzzle enthusiasts
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worked together on a common goal solving
the remaining three ciphers. As time passed,
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many people began to wonder if the
ciphers were impossible to solve, it
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would make sense for a killer who
liked to taunt the police to mess with
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them in this way, providing three
cryptograms that were gibberish and one that was
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easy to solve, making them waste
their time and energy trying to solve an
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impossible puzzle. As it turned out, this theory was not true, at
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least not for all three remaining ciphers. In twenty twenty, amateur code breakers
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got in contact with the FBI.
They believed that they had solved one of
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the three remaining cryptograms, nicknamed the
three forty cipher because of the number of
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characters in the puzzle. The three
forty cipher had been infamously sent to the
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newspaper alongside a ripped, bloodstained section
of one of the victim's shirts, concrete
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proof that the author was the killer. In December twenty twenty, an FBI
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spokesperson gave a statement quote, the
FBI is aware that a cipher attributed to
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the Zodiac killer was recently solved by
private citizens. The break in the case
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was officially confirmed. Half of the
Zodiac ciphers were now solved. Although the
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three forty cipher's message referenced an incident
where a man pretending to be the Zodiac
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killer had called into a local talk
show, it did not reveal his true
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identity. Instead, it gave insight
into the inner monologue of a man who
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had murdered in cold blood and taunted
the police for fun. It read quote,
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I hope you're having lots of fun
and trying to catch me. That
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wasn't me on the TV show,
which brings up a point about me.
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I'm not afraid of the gas chamber
because it will send me to paradise all
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the sooner, because I now have
enough slaves to work for me, where
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everyone else has nothing when they reach
for paradise, so they are afraid of
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death. I am not afraid because
I know my new life will be an
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Discretion is it by him? Murder? If you know true crime, you've
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heard of the Zodiac Killer. He's
one of the world's most famous serial murderers.
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Even though five decades have passed since
his killing spree and fifty years on,
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00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:46.000
his case is still wide open,
with law enforcement working to uncover the
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identity of the man who killed at
least five people between late nineteen sixty eight
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00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:56.320
and nineteen sixty nine. Why does
the world still have such a fascination with
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00:00:56.399 --> 00:01:02.359
an unidentified killer From the nineteen sixties, the crimes carried out by the Zodiac
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00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:07.359
were not unusual. Five confirmed murders
where two young couples and one lone cab
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00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:12.560
driver were shot to death. Two
other victims had been wounded but survived their
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00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:18.439
injuries, but they weren't able to
identify the assailant. The descriptions of the
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00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:23.200
killer provided by their survivors are vague
enough that they could have been almost anyone.
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00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:27.400
Whites, brown headed, male,
late twenties or early thirties, around
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00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:33.519
two hundred pounds, less than six
feet tall, wearing dark clothing. There
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00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:38.200
was nothing about him that seemed especially
memorable, apart from the fact that he
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00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:42.879
was killing strangers without remorse, and
the one report of him wearing a black
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00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:48.719
execution style hood while approaching his victims. It's possible that if all he had
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00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:53.280
done is murder his victims and then
disappear, he might have been forgotten by
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now. But it wasn't necessarily the
killings themselves that made the Zodiac so notorious.
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It was what he did next.
It was not uncommon for serial killers
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00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:09.719
to contact police or local media in
searching themselves into the investigation, making threats
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00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:15.240
or taunting the cops for not being
able to catch them quickly enough. The
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00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:19.840
Zodiac did this, even calling the
police to report a murder shortly after he
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had finished shooting his victims. He
also seemed to have some knowledge of how
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00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:29.360
to slow down law enforcement, killing
several of his victims in areas where police
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00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:35.759
jurisdiction overlapped, making the investigations slower. One of the reasons for the Zodiac
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00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:40.919
Killer's notoriety is the sheer volume of
letters that he submitted to local newspapers taking
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00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:49.319
responsibility for the recent killings, including
encrypted text puzzles called cryptograms, one of
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00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:53.879
which he claimed would reveal his identity
if solved. He said that if the
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00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:57.919
letters weren't published on the front page
of the newspaper. He'd kill a dozen
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00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:00.960
people over the weekend. It was
in one of these letters that he gave
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00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:07.560
himself a nickname, Dear Editor.
The letter began, this is the Zodiac
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speaking. He was responding to a
request by the Vallejo police chief, who
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00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:15.639
had asked the author of the previous
letters to prove that they were the real
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00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:21.960
killer by revealing details that the public
weren't aware of. Sure Enough, the
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00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:25.599
letter from the Zodiac contained details about
the crimes that only the killer would know.
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00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:30.840
It was confirmed they had been communicating
directly with the man who would quickly
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00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:36.319
become known by his own nickname.
They were reading a letter from the Zodiac
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00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:39.319
Killer. One of the letters contained
a list of ways in which the killer
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00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:45.439
had supposedly murdered his victims, including
two methods which had not been seen in
40
00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:51.639
any of the linked cases. By
rope presumably meaning strangulation, and by fire.
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00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:55.240
In the confirmed killings, the Zodiac's
weapons of choice had either been a
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00:03:55.319 --> 00:04:01.039
military style bladed weapon or an automatic
pistol. It seemed as if he preferred
43
00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:05.439
using guns. He'd admitted in one
of his letters to taping a flashlight to
44
00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:11.199
his pistol, allowing him to aim
when shooting at night. In another letter,
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00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:15.319
he claimed to be responsible for thirty
seven murders. The details the Zodiac
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00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:19.199
had provided in his letters so far
had been accurate. What if he was
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00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:24.720
telling the truth and he had other
victims that had not been connected to the
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00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:29.560
case. Out of all the murders
that could possibly be linked to the Zodiac
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00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:34.160
Killer, the Santa Rosa hitchhiker murders
were probably the most famous. During the
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early nineteen seventies, at least seven
women hitchhiking through California's North Bay area were
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murdered, stripped, and found dumped
in an isolated area or in creek beds.
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The killer was never found, but
the Zodiac Killer has remained near the
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top of the list of suspects,
especially after an occult symbol similar to those
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in his letters was found by the
body of one of the hitchhikers. Several
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of the victims had been slowly strangled
to death with a length of court Could
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this have been what the Zodiac meant
when referring to rope. This was the
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kind of valuable information provided by the
Zodiac Killer's communication. Hince at his m
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o, his personality and other crimes
that he may have committed. It was
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likely that one day the Zodiac's letters
would be the thing that got him caught
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DNA advancements, getting too confident,
revealing too much information. There were so
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many traps that he could have fallen
into. But in nineteen seventy four,
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all communication from the Zodiac Killer ceased. It seemed as if he might have
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just stopped killing, but it was
hard to tell. Without the taunting messages
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and damning letters linking the cases together
and proving that the killer was the same,
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Investigators were left trying to solve the
puzzles that he'd provided, while also
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narrowing down a hefty list of suspects. The only suspect whose name was ever
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made public was a convicted sex offender, Arthur Lee Allen. Some of the
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circumstantial evidence was suspicious. Arthur lived
close to one of the victims. He'd
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been in the area when at least
one of the young couples were murdered,
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and one of his friends had told
the police that Arthur talked about wanting to
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murder people and even used the name
Zodiac to refer to himself. Other pieces
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of evidence I'm using air quotes there
seemed more like grasping at straws. Arthur
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owned a wristwatch made by the brand
Zodiac. He used the same typewriter that
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one of the letters had been written
on. But all the evidence against Arthur
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Lee Allen was just that circumstantial.
In two thousand and two, a decade
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after Arthur passed away, a DNA
profile was created from samples of the Zodiac
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Killers saliva. Arthur's DNA was compared
to the sample. It was not a
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match. Lloyd Cunningham, police handwriting
expert, who had worked on the case,
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said this about the possibility of Arthur
Allen being the killer quote. They
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gave me banana boxes full of Arthur
Lee's writing, and none of his writing
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even came close to the Zodiac,
Nor did DNA extract it from the envelopes
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on the Zodiac's letters come close to
Arthur Lee Allen. In total, four
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cryptogram puzzles were sent by the Zodiac
Killer. One cipher was solved shortly after
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it was published, providing the insight
that the author quote liked killing people because
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it was so much fun. For
years, investigators, codebreakers and puzzle enthusiasts
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worked together on a common goal solving
the remaining three ciphers. As time passed,
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many people began to wonder if the
ciphers were impossible to solve, it
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would make sense for a killer who
liked to taunt the police to mess with
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them in this way, providing three
cryptograms that were gibberish and one that was
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easy to solve, making them waste
their time and energy trying to solve an
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impossible puzzle. As it turned out, this theory was not true, at
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least not for all three remaining ciphers. In twenty twenty, amateur code breakers
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got in contact with the FBI.
They believed that they had solved one of
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the three remaining cryptograms, nicknamed the
three forty cipher because of the number of
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characters in the puzzle. The three
forty cipher had been infamously sent to the
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newspaper alongside a ripped, bloodstained section
of one of the victim's shirts, concrete
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proof that the author was the killer. In December twenty twenty, an FBI
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spokesperson gave a statement quote, the
FBI is aware that a cipher attributed to
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the Zodiac killer was recently solved by
private citizens. The break in the case
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was officially confirmed. Half of the
Zodiac ciphers were now solved. Although the
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three forty cipher's message referenced an incident
where a man pretending to be the Zodiac
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killer had called into a local talk
show, it did not reveal his true
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identity. Instead, it gave insight
into the inner monologue of a man who
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had murdered in cold blood and taunted
the police for fun. It read quote,
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I hope you're having lots of fun
and trying to catch me. That
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wasn't me on the TV show,
which brings up a point about me.
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I'm not afraid of the gas chamber
because it will send me to paradise all
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the sooner, because I now have
enough slaves to work for me, where
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everyone else has nothing when they reach
for paradise, so they are afraid of
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death. I am not afraid because
I know my new life will be an
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