Nov. 16, 2023
West Mesa Bone Collector

In 2009, the buried remains of eleven women were found in the desert. Each of the victims were identified - but the killer known as the West Mesa Bone Collector has never been found. Or, has it?
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Discretion is advised. This is ten
minuted murder. On February two, two
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thousand and nine, a lady was
walking her dog in the West Mesa,
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a large elevated land mass in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Midway through her walk,
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she came across what appeared to be
a human bone. Alarmed, the
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woman reported her finding to the police, who confirmed that the bone was human
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and began an in depth search of
the area where the bone had been found.
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The searchers expected to find the rest
of the body that the bone had
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come from, but they found much
much more than that. The investigation uncovered
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eleven sets of human remains buried in
the area, as well as the remains
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of an unborn fetus. All of
the victims were female. The youngest was
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fifteen years old and the oldest was
thirty two. Most of the victims were
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Hispanic, and almost all of them
were from backgrounds that would have made them
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vulnerable to predators, such as sex
workers and drug addicts. Satellite images of
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the area were reviewed, allowing the
police to estimate a time frame of when
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the bodies had been buried. Whoever
this killer was, they had killed prolifically
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over an extended period of time.
The first body had been buried in two
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thousand one and the last one in
two thousand five. The satellite images also
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gave investigators insight as to how the
bones were eventually exposed to the elements.
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They had all been buried in the
bank of an arroyo, a type of
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dry water course that fills with water
during heavy rain. It was an area
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that was well within the city limits, but that had not been developed at
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the time the killings began. The
series of satellite images showed soiled disturbances and
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tire tracks appearing between two thousand and
three and two thousand and five, indicating
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that the killer was able to visit
the sites whenever he needed to dispose of
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a body without being disturbed. Then, in two thousand and six, the
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burial site was mapped for development of
residential properties and the arroyo was buried.
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Because the arroyo acted as a reservoir
to store and naturally direct heavy rain flow
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without its, flooding began to encroach
on the nearby houses, and after enough
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people in the neighborhood complained about the
flooding, an artificial retention pond was built
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in the same area. Where the
remains had been buried. It was only
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through this series of coincidences that the
bones were gradually exposed to the surface.
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One by one, The remains were
matched to missing girls and women who had
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gone missing between two thousand and one
and two thousand five. The dates that
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each victim vanished matched up with the
satellite images showing that the final body had
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been buried in two thousand and five. The youngest victim was fifteen year old
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Solonia Edwards, who had run away
from her home in Lawton, Oklahoma.
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Out of all the victims, she
was the only girl of African American descent,
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and she was also the only one
who had lived in a different state.
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The fetus in the grave was the
unborn baby of twenty two year old
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Michel Valdez, who had been about
four months pregnant when she was killed.
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In December twenty ten, six photos
were released by the Albuquerque Police showing seven
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women who investigators believed might be linked
to the West Mayson murders. The next
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day, a seventh photo was released. This time, the woman in the
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photo was quickly identified by members of
her family, who said that she had
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passed away due to an unrelated illness. Four days after the photos were released,
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two more of the women in the
photos had been identified by their loved
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ones, and both of them were
still alive. However, the remaining women
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in the photos were never named.
Investigators had a good reason to be concerned
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for the well being of the women
and several of the photos. They seemed
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to be asleep or unconscious, and
several of them looked similar to the eleven
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victims found buried in the West Mesa
Desert. In the early days of the
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investigation, the police realized they'd stumbled
upon the dumping ground of a serial killer.
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They couldn't rule out that the killer
may have worked with an accomplice,
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but they were certain that the same
person or group of people was responsible for
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the murders and burials. As news
of the case spread, the unidentified killer
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became known as the West Mesa bone
collector. Considering that the case began with
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eleven unidentified sets of skeletal remains,
The progress made in the investigtion gation was
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initially impressive, but since the day
that the last victim was identified, the
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case went cold. As of November
twenty twenty three, no suspects have been
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officially named. By authorities in connection
with the West Mason murders, and that
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despite a one hundred thousand dollars reward
for information leading to the killer's arrest,
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the FBI received an anonymous tip that
potentially linked the crimes to a suspect who
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lived in Central America. At several
points in the investigation, the police wondered
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if the murders were the result of
a sex trafficking ring that targeted sex workers
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at times when there was a large
influx of people in the area, such
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as during the popular New Mexico State
Fair, but no suspects being officially named
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by the authorities doesn't mean that there
were no suspects at all. In fact,
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several people attracted the suspicion of the
police since the early days of the
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case, and some of them have
even had a connection with the victims.
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One of the earliest unofficial suspects was
a pimp named Fred Reynolds, who allegedly
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kept photos of prostitutes and escorts who
had gone missing. He also had connections
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to at least one of the women, but he was never able to be
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connected to the crime itself, and
in early two thousand and nine he passed
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away Then, in late twenty ten, the police carried out an extensive search
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of multiple properties in Missouri which were
connected to Ron Irwin, a businessman and
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photographer who regularly visited the Albuquerque State
Fair. Although the police removed tens of
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thousands of photographs from Ron's property,
they later stated that they were confident that
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he was not involved with the West
Mason murders. Joseph Blee, a man
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known as the mid School Rapist,
was a sex offender who targeted teenage girls
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in the around area of Albuquerque's McKinley
Middle School. He would break into the
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girls houses and sexually assault them before
running away. He'd also convicted of murdering
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a sex worker who was found dead
on the street. After a breakthrough in
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an unsolved unrelated case led to Joseph
Blee being identified as the perpetrator, the
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police began to wonder if he could
be the West MASA bone collector close to
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where the bodies had been dumped,
a tree tag had been recovered by the
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investigators, and it turned out to
come from a plant nursery where Joseph had
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been a frequent customer during his time
behind bars. Joseph also reportedly told a
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fellow prisoner that the West Masa victims
were trashy, but that he had used
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their services anyway. Joseph was never
convicted of the West Mason murders. In
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June twenty fifteen, he received a
thirty six year sentence for the other crimes
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he committed. Out of all of
these unofficial suspects, there is one man
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whom many people believe to be the
strongest link to the case. His name
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is Lorenzo Montoya. Lorenzo lived close
to the West Masa bone collector's dumping site.
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In fact, the trailer park where
he lived was a little under three
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miles away from the graves. Allegedly, he visited the arroyo often enough in
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two thousand and six that there were
visible trails between his trailer and the burial
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site, although this has never been
confirmed by the police. Lorenzo also had
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a history of violence. His girlfriend
reported that he had repeatedly threatened to murder
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her and then bury her remains in
lime to counteract the smell of decay.
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On multiple occasions, he had been
arrested for brutally attacking the prostitutes that he
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hired, and his coworkers found his
conversation topics equally disturbing. Several of Lorenzo's
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co workers reported that he talked to
them about how he'd killed sex workers and
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then disposed of the remains on a
spots on the West Mesa. However,
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Lorenzo was never investigated in connection with
the murders because he was long dead himself
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by the time the bodies were discovered. In late two thousand and six,
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he hired a teenage prostitute. He
took that girl back to his trailer,
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he attacked her and strangled her to
death. That girl's boyfriend tracked Lorenzo down
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and shot him to death. After
that, no more bodies were dumped by
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the West Masa bone collector. Whether
the timing of Lorenzo's death was a coincidence.
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Something eventually did stop the West Masa
bone collector from returning to the site
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where he had disposed of the bodies
all those years, But the question of
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whether he truly stopped killing or just
started burying his victims in a new location
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remains unanswered. That's ten minute Murder
for today brief and bingeable true crime.
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I'm Joe the host, and thank
you so much for listening to ten minute
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Dear Joe, Maybe you've answered this before
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but what made you start doing this podcast
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I love it and have noticed a
few copycats pop up since I started listening
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to yours. None are nearly as
well told or researched as yours though,
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Plus they don't have Joe the host
winky face. That's from Mackenzie and WIDGETA.
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And by the way she wrote out
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It just says winky face Mackenzie.
I don't know that I've answered this
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completely before, but I will now. What made me start doing this podcast
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is the pandemic got real bored.
I've done commercial voiceovers for a really long
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equipment the studio at home, so it
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was just a matter of deciding what
to do the podcast about. And I
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didn't want to be just another white
guy with a podcast, because those are
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a dime a dozen. But what
I do have an interest in is storytelling
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and true crime. But I also
have a little bit of ADHD which makes
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me lose my attention span pretty quickly, so I figured if people like me
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exist, they would like a show
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you don't have to sit through an
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started one. But it did take
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I've known a guy for a really
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does a lot of different podcasts and
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yeah, you should definitely do this
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off of him and he was like, yeah, do it. So I
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did it, and now here we
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Discretion is advised. This is ten
minuted murder. On February two, two
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thousand and nine, a lady was
walking her dog in the West Mesa,
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a large elevated land mass in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Midway through her walk,
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she came across what appeared to be
a human bone. Alarmed, the
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woman reported her finding to the police, who confirmed that the bone was human
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and began an in depth search of
the area where the bone had been found.
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The searchers expected to find the rest
of the body that the bone had
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come from, but they found much
much more than that. The investigation uncovered
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eleven sets of human remains buried in
the area, as well as the remains
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of an unborn fetus. All of
the victims were female. The youngest was
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fifteen years old and the oldest was
thirty two. Most of the victims were
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Hispanic, and almost all of them
were from backgrounds that would have made them
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00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:34.879
vulnerable to predators, such as sex
workers and drug addicts. Satellite images of
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the area were reviewed, allowing the
police to estimate a time frame of when
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the bodies had been buried. Whoever
this killer was, they had killed prolifically
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over an extended period of time.
The first body had been buried in two
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thousand one and the last one in
two thousand five. The satellite images also
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gave investigators insight as to how the
bones were eventually exposed to the elements.
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00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:02.879
They had all been buried in the
bank of an arroyo, a type of
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00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:07.199
dry water course that fills with water
during heavy rain. It was an area
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00:02:07.240 --> 00:02:10.960
that was well within the city limits, but that had not been developed at
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the time the killings began. The
series of satellite images showed soiled disturbances and
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00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:22.639
tire tracks appearing between two thousand and
three and two thousand and five, indicating
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00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:25.680
that the killer was able to visit
the sites whenever he needed to dispose of
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00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:30.560
a body without being disturbed. Then, in two thousand and six, the
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burial site was mapped for development of
residential properties and the arroyo was buried.
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Because the arroyo acted as a reservoir
to store and naturally direct heavy rain flow
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without its, flooding began to encroach
on the nearby houses, and after enough
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people in the neighborhood complained about the
flooding, an artificial retention pond was built
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00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:54.800
in the same area. Where the
remains had been buried. It was only
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through this series of coincidences that the
bones were gradually exposed to the surface.
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One by one, The remains were
matched to missing girls and women who had
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gone missing between two thousand and one
and two thousand five. The dates that
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each victim vanished matched up with the
satellite images showing that the final body had
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been buried in two thousand and five. The youngest victim was fifteen year old
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Solonia Edwards, who had run away
from her home in Lawton, Oklahoma.
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Out of all the victims, she
was the only girl of African American descent,
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and she was also the only one
who had lived in a different state.
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The fetus in the grave was the
unborn baby of twenty two year old
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Michel Valdez, who had been about
four months pregnant when she was killed.
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In December twenty ten, six photos
were released by the Albuquerque Police showing seven
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women who investigators believed might be linked
to the West Mayson murders. The next
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day, a seventh photo was released. This time, the woman in the
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photo was quickly identified by members of
her family, who said that she had
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passed away due to an unrelated illness. Four days after the photos were released,
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two more of the women in the
photos had been identified by their loved
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ones, and both of them were
still alive. However, the remaining women
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in the photos were never named.
Investigators had a good reason to be concerned
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for the well being of the women
and several of the photos. They seemed
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to be asleep or unconscious, and
several of them looked similar to the eleven
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victims found buried in the West Mesa
Desert. In the early days of the
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investigation, the police realized they'd stumbled
upon the dumping ground of a serial killer.
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They couldn't rule out that the killer
may have worked with an accomplice,
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but they were certain that the same
person or group of people was responsible for
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the murders and burials. As news
of the case spread, the unidentified killer
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became known as the West Mesa bone
collector. Considering that the case began with
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eleven unidentified sets of skeletal remains,
The progress made in the investigtion gation was
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initially impressive, but since the day
that the last victim was identified, the
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case went cold. As of November
twenty twenty three, no suspects have been
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officially named. By authorities in connection
with the West Mason murders, and that
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despite a one hundred thousand dollars reward
for information leading to the killer's arrest,
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the FBI received an anonymous tip that
potentially linked the crimes to a suspect who
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lived in Central America. At several
points in the investigation, the police wondered
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if the murders were the result of
a sex trafficking ring that targeted sex workers
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at times when there was a large
influx of people in the area, such
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as during the popular New Mexico State
Fair, but no suspects being officially named
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by the authorities doesn't mean that there
were no suspects at all. In fact,
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several people attracted the suspicion of the
police since the early days of the
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case, and some of them have
even had a connection with the victims.
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One of the earliest unofficial suspects was
a pimp named Fred Reynolds, who allegedly
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kept photos of prostitutes and escorts who
had gone missing. He also had connections
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to at least one of the women, but he was never able to be
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connected to the crime itself, and
in early two thousand and nine he passed
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away Then, in late twenty ten, the police carried out an extensive search
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of multiple properties in Missouri which were
connected to Ron Irwin, a businessman and
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photographer who regularly visited the Albuquerque State
Fair. Although the police removed tens of
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thousands of photographs from Ron's property,
they later stated that they were confident that
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he was not involved with the West
Mason murders. Joseph Blee, a man
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known as the mid School Rapist,
was a sex offender who targeted teenage girls
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in the around area of Albuquerque's McKinley
Middle School. He would break into the
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girls houses and sexually assault them before
running away. He'd also convicted of murdering
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a sex worker who was found dead
on the street. After a breakthrough in
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an unsolved unrelated case led to Joseph
Blee being identified as the perpetrator, the
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police began to wonder if he could
be the West MASA bone collector close to
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where the bodies had been dumped,
a tree tag had been recovered by the
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investigators, and it turned out to
come from a plant nursery where Joseph had
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been a frequent customer during his time
behind bars. Joseph also reportedly told a
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fellow prisoner that the West Masa victims
were trashy, but that he had used
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their services anyway. Joseph was never
convicted of the West Mason murders. In
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June twenty fifteen, he received a
thirty six year sentence for the other crimes
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he committed. Out of all of
these unofficial suspects, there is one man
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whom many people believe to be the
strongest link to the case. His name
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is Lorenzo Montoya. Lorenzo lived close
to the West Masa bone collector's dumping site.
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In fact, the trailer park where
he lived was a little under three
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miles away from the graves. Allegedly, he visited the arroyo often enough in
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two thousand and six that there were
visible trails between his trailer and the burial
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site, although this has never been
confirmed by the police. Lorenzo also had
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a history of violence. His girlfriend
reported that he had repeatedly threatened to murder
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her and then bury her remains in
lime to counteract the smell of decay.
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On multiple occasions, he had been
arrested for brutally attacking the prostitutes that he
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hired, and his coworkers found his
conversation topics equally disturbing. Several of Lorenzo's
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co workers reported that he talked to
them about how he'd killed sex workers and
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then disposed of the remains on a
spots on the West Mesa. However,
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Lorenzo was never investigated in connection with
the murders because he was long dead himself
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by the time the bodies were discovered. In late two thousand and six,
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he hired a teenage prostitute. He
took that girl back to his trailer,
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he attacked her and strangled her to
death. That girl's boyfriend tracked Lorenzo down
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and shot him to death. After
that, no more bodies were dumped by
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the West Masa bone collector. Whether
the timing of Lorenzo's death was a coincidence.
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Something eventually did stop the West Masa
bone collector from returning to the site
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where he had disposed of the bodies
all those years, But the question of
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whether he truly stopped killing or just
started burying his victims in a new location
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remains unanswered. That's ten minute Murder
for today brief and bingeable true crime.
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I'm Joe the host, and thank
you so much for listening to ten minute
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Dear Joe, Maybe you've answered this before
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and I could have missed it,
but what made you start doing this podcast
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and what made you do one where
the stories are in a condensed format?
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I love it and have noticed a
few copycats pop up since I started listening
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to yours. None are nearly as
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Plus they don't have Joe the host
winky face. That's from Mackenzie and WIDGETA.
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And by the way she wrote out
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It just says winky face Mackenzie.
I don't know that I've answered this
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completely before, but I will now. What made me start doing this podcast
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is the pandemic got real bored.
I've done commercial voiceovers for a really long
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time, so I already had the
equipment the studio at home, so it
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was just a matter of deciding what
to do the podcast about. And I
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didn't want to be just another white
guy with a podcast, because those are
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a dime a dozen. But what
I do have an interest in is storytelling
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and true crime. But I also
have a little bit of ADHD which makes
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me lose my attention span pretty quickly, so I figured if people like me
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exist, they would like a show
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you don't have to sit through an
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a story when you really just need
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the point. So I did some
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I wanted to do it, So I
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started one. But it did take
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I've known a guy for a really
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Obviously that's not his real name,
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podcasts. If you just type Cassio
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in, chances are you going to
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on. I don't know how many
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does a lot of different podcasts and
he's great, and he encouraged me,
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yeah, you should definitely do this
ten minute murder because I bounced that idea
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off of him and he was like, yeah, do it. So I
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did it, and now here we
are, however, many years later.
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Anyway, that answers your question Mackenzie
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